Malware warning and my thoughts on advertising

[beardeddone]

To me the act of advertising in this country is the epidemic of spam, it's unwanted solicited crap we have to be exposed to on any level and should be a Law against it, just like advertising cigarettes, it's against the law, but yet the Courts are filled with DWI cases and yet the biggest advertisers at the Super Bowl (Bud Light) to keep the jails filled with such and big money for the court system, we have drugs we need to ask the Doctor about because the Pharmaceutical industry thinks we need it and, a multi Billion business, want to buy them and the side affects out weigh the usage of.

Seems as tho something is wrong with this picture and maybe it's time to stop all this kind of crap in this Country as everyone has sucked all the money out of us and we like the Country is broke from buying all the junk we have been bombarded with in commercials on all levels..

OK, brain fart over

 

[RogersJetboat454]

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To me the act of advertising in this country is the epidemic of spam, it's unwanted solicited crap we have to be exposed to on any level and should be a Law against it, just like advertising cigarettes, it's against the law, but yet the Courts are filled with DWI cases and yet the biggest advertisers at the Super Bowl (Bud Light) to keep the jails filled with such and big money for the court system, we have drugs we need to ask the Doctor about because the Pharmaceutical industry thinks we need it and, a multi Billion business, want to buy them and the side affects out weigh the usage of.

Seems as tho something is wrong with this picture and maybe it's time to stop all this kind of crap in this Country as everyone has sucked all the money out of us and we like the Country is broke from buying all the junk we have been bombarded with in commercials on all levels..

OK, brain fart over

This use of forum is free of charge because of such ad's.
There are different browsers available with ad blocking services if the ad's are a problem for you.

 

[beardeddone]

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This use of forum is free of charge because of such ad's.
There are different browsers available with ad blocking services if the ad's are a problem for you.

Not true, the use of this forum is free for use ad's or no ad's from what I can see is part of the Business but if the business didn't exist it would still be free except for the url and software to run this forum and donations could take care of that, VB isn't cheap, and I still have my copy if I wanted to use it again, which I don't.

And please don't tell me if it wasn't for ad's the Businesses in this country would go broke as they already have and has accelerated since we have gone so commercialized, lots of to big to fail Businesses are failing left and right and this year is going to prove it even more.

The best advertising is still word by mouth not the TV we all pay dearly for now.

Have a good day

 

[RogersJetboat454]

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Not true, the use of this forum is free for use ad's or no ad's from what I can see is part of the Business but if the business didn't exist it would still be free except for the url and software to run this forum and donations could take care of that, VB isn't cheap, and I still have my copy if I wanted to use it again, which I don't.

In past posts logged by members complaining about some of the aggressive pop-up ads that this forum occasionally has, it's been mentioned by both the Moderators, and Administrators of this forum that the Ad's directly support keeping this forum going for free.
What I posted was ENTIRELY TRUE...
Server space, and administration are not free or cheap.

And please don't tell me if it wasn't for ad's the Businesses in this country would go broke as they already have and has accelerated since we have gone so commercialized, lots of to big to fail Businesses are failing left and right and this year is going to prove it even more.

OK... Words said by "me" that were never said, or implied in my post...
You're arguing with your self on that one...

 

[Don S]

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Since this has absolutely nothing to do with the problem with the malware alerts thread in the website forum, I have moved the discussion to it's own thread and on to Dockside Chat for your enjoyment and further discussion. Please keep is civil.

 

[beardeddone]

Re: Malware warning on "ill informed boat knowledge" thread

Re: Malware warning on "ill informed boat knowledge" thread

In past posts logged by members complaining about some of the aggressive pop-up ads that this forum occasionally has, it's been mentioned by both the Moderators, and Administrators of this forum that the Ad's directly support keeping this forum going for free.
What I posted was ENTIRELY TRUE...
Server space, and administration are not free or cheap.

Without discussing the operation of this forum, I can I believe state my experience of being an admin of a VB support forum I started and ran for over a year for a software developer that was used, although the software failed to develop along that time the cost was a little over $100 a year for server space and the URL which was covered by donations, me administrating the forum and 2 mods took me less then 10 minutes a day to look at any problems and mods are usually not paid, so any thing else is over and above what is needed to operate a forum.

I had advertisers offer me $ to advertise on my forum which I declined as I didn't want advertising on that forum and had nothing to do with keeping the forum going.

This was my experience

OK... Words said by "me" that were never said, or implied in my post...
You're arguing with your self on that one...

You misunderstood me, I never said you said it or implied you did and maybe I was arguing with myself as I do talk to myself at times as I sometimes can't get the answer I was expecting from others..

 

[beardeddone]

Re: Malware warning and my thoughts on advertising

Since this has absolutely nothing to do with the problem with the malware alerts thread in the website forum, I have moved the discussion to it's own thread and on to Dockside Chat for your enjoyment and further discussion. Please keep is civil.

Sorry Don, wasn't trying to hijack the topic, but malware is a major problem and from what I have been reading on it soon to be a problem in advertising a major problem and it makes sense as what better way to get malware through but in advertising on the Internet and I just read a few days ago that even the Mac is going to have if not already having similar problems as most windows pc's are not enjoying now.

This is a serious problem on the horizon.

Thanks

 

[nwcove]

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opcorn: ( wheres the malware warning??)

 

[beardeddone]

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Tech Giants Hope To Stop "Bad Ads" With New Alliance
for one. I'll try to keep this updated as time goes on.

 

[nwcove]

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with all do respect.....you complain about being bombarded with advertisements at all levels.....but you post a link thats not much more than an ad! ( facebook,google, aol, twitter,webpronews???)

 

[RogersJetboat454]

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Re: Malware warning on "ill informed boat knowledge" thread

Without discussing the operation of this forum, I can I believe state my experience of being an admin of a VB support forum I started and ran for over a year for a software developer that was used, although the software failed to develop along that time the cost was a little over $100 a year for server space and the URL which was covered by donations, me administrating the forum and 2 mods took me less then 10 minutes a day to look at any problems and mods are usually not paid, so any thing else is over and above what is needed to operate a forum.

I had advertisers offer me $ to advertise on my forum which I declined as I didn't want advertising on that forum and had nothing to do with keeping the forum going.

This was my experience

I can appreciate your experience, but bare in mind the scale of Iboats;

Topics:565,213 Posts:4,046,237 Members:379,758
Most users ever online was 2,282, July 8th, 2012 at 09:42 PM

Was the forum you administrated the same scale? Was it storing thousands of member photo's?

Mod's here do work for free, doing what's mostly a thankless job of keeping everything clean, and friendly.
With all the traffic going through this site, forum tweaks, and keeping it healthy, I'm sure the Administrators have to spend a little bit more than 10 minutes a day on keeping it going... But maybe I'm wrong...:watermelon:

 

[beardeddone]

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with all do respect.....I can only guess that you must have missed the point of that discussion and what is trying to be done by it.

 

[Don S]

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with all do respect.....I can only guess that you must have missed the point of that discussion and what is trying to be done by it.

Please explain it to us.
What I got out of the original post in the website forum is that a few people were getting a malware alert. The problem was corrected by the company that got hacked (not iboats, and there was no malware) and the problem is over.
Sites getting hacked happens on the internet.

Then you got on a frenzy about advertising.

 

[beardeddone]

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I can appreciate your experience, but bare in mind the scale of Iboats;

Topics:565,213 Posts:4,046,237 Members:379,758
Most users ever online was 2,282, July 8th, 2012 at 09:42 PM

Was the forum you administrated the same scale? Was it storing thousands of member photo's?

Mod's here do work for free, doing what's mostly a thankless job of keeping everything clean, and friendly.
With all the traffic going through this site, forum tweaks, and keeping it healthy, I'm sure the Administrators have to spend a little bit more than 10 minutes a day on keeping it going... But maybe I'm wrong...:watermelon:

Well for the year or a little over my forum was operational I had over 4,000 members, 2,000 in the first six months so nothing on the scale of what Iboats has, but if it was to have continued it certainly could have as many or more and yes with all the photo's and all, just not a Business, VB is very functional and does just about everything as all the newer versions does, besides the addons for more capabilities, VB is a great forum software and besides mine was hosted so the space, amount of users or anything else wasn't a problem and it was pretty fast responsive as well..

And if in Business any cost for support is usually a right off.
Just saying..

 

[Bob_VT]

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Advertising is our friend Here is a success story about iboats history..... About iboats.com - Company History

I am member # 1642 and JB who has a few months on me here is #1027 and we have been around since 2001. We are witness to ALL of the changes and because of advertising iboats has grown.

As far as the alcohol and pharmaceutical advertising......not here on iboats.

 

[toneeees]

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Well for the year or a little over my forum was operational I had over 4,000 members, 2,000 in the first six months so nothing on the scale of what Iboats has, but if it was to have continued it certainly could have as many or more and yes with all the photo's and all, just not a Business, VB is very functional and does just about everything as all the newer versions does, besides the addons for more capabilities, VB is a great forum software and besides mine was hosted so the space, amount of users or anything else wasn't a problem and it was pretty fast responsive as well..

And if in Business any cost for support is usually a right off.
Just saying..

I as well do not like seeing ads, so I've installed an ad block. We do need a way to make money for the servers and other operating costs. We could do donations or other similar ways to make the money. Advertising is the only way we can guarantee money is being made.

Maybe I can help explain why it is important to us. The forum you previously ran had over 4,000 members. How many of these members visited daily? Last week alone we averaged 28,470 unique visits a day. I'm going to take a guess, and say your forum received less than 500 unique views a day. I run a website on the side that barely reaches 100 unique visits a day. Which any company would be okay with hosting, that traffic is small to a large host. My hosting, and I'm guessing your hosting, was on a shared server.

With some search engine optimizing we are noticing a heavy increase of viewers. So heavy, that we had to purchase a new dedicated server. This server only has the forums on it, and we are still noticing some issues with performance. If we are having an average of 28,000 viewers a day in the winter. I can only imagine how many will view in the summer. We are currently looking at other optimizations or purchasing a SECOND dedicated server to help power the forums with ease. If it wasn't for advertising, we wouldn't be able to do this.

vBulletin is an awesome platform, works well and they constantly have new features. Well that was a lot, hopefully it helps explain why we use advertising.

 

[RogersJetboat454]

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Thanks for the info Toneeees!

I was hoping one of the men (or women) "from behind the curtain" could give us the nitty-gritty facts...

 

[korygrandy]

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There's money to be made in advertising... love it! Without it, the US economy would fall behind in the world stage further than we already have all while crippling our globalization opportunities.

Free will which was fought and earned allows you the capability of living a life without ads if you so choose. It also allows you to debate your views on them.

Malware comes from code developed by a person with malicious intentions behind it. You can choose to avoid this altogether as well.

Everyone has a choice in the matter right?

As for the money part of it, sure there is a profit to be made. The guy that sits right next to the cube I'n in runs a snowmobile forum and Google cuts him a nice check every quarter. He just had an Audi custom ordered and shipped from Germany with less than 5miles on it and he just closed on a 350k home and he's only 30yrs old. He is the moderator, developer and accountant all in one...only Uncle Sam takes his profits.

 

[roscoe]

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with all do respect.....I can only guess that you must have missed the point of that discussion and what is trying to be done by it.

I for one, get your point, well kind of in a rambling on disorganized way.

Advertising is bad, ruining society and the world, so since capitalism needs advertising to get the word out, capitalism must be bad, and something else, therefore, must be better.

Seriously, thats what I get from whats posted above.

And apparently, malware will get us if we allow advertising in our world?

So, the answer is to go live off the grid maybe?

 

[QC]

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So, the answer is to go live off the grid maybe?

Yes. Here is on the grid, some other places may be off the grid. Long live the grid...