Matching numbers ?

nottuskram

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Hello,
I am tring to wire an ignition up.I am not sure what diagram to use.Here are the 2 numbers I got off the the tag in the motor.856X62 (Model #),4100 (serial #).Please help.
Thank you Mark
 

maxum247

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Re: Matching numbers ?

I'm assuming this a 85 HP Force outboard, what year, is it a dash mount switch or control box? Does it have the choke built in the switch, and are you connecting the wire ends to the switch or splicing the wires somewhere?

This may help someone assist you better!
 

nottuskram

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Re: Matching numbers ?

Those numbers I took from the engine tab.The tab said U.S. Marine on it. I am not sure of the year of the motor. The ignition is in the dash.I took the wires (8) from the engine and put them in a electrical bar and then took (6) wires to the ignition switch.You can push in and turn the key.Sorry I can't explain it better.
Thanks Mark
 

maxum247

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Re: Matching numbers ?

Did you wire the kill switch in with the ignition switch? If yes did you connect the lanyard to the kill switch before trying to start? Won't start without it! But wait in another thread you said you had nothing when you turned the key correct?

Does your engine have blue or black coils and CD boxes?

Your choke is built into the ignition switch for sure that's clear!

Do you know if the engine came new with the boat as a package or has the motor been replaced? If it came as a package new look at your hull id number on the stern of your boat the last two numbers at the end will give the boat year.

Pull the hood off your motor and look inside the cover sometimes the year of the motor is written in there with a marker.
 

Frank Acampora

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Re: Matching numbers ?

I don't pay attention to numbers but if it is a US Marine, it is mid to late '80s.

At any rate, almost all Force engines up to '90 are wired the same at the ignition switch.

Green wire connects to the "C" or choke terminal on the switch. Yellow goes to "S" or start, Blue goes to one "M" and White goes to the other "M". Red goes to "B" or bat terminal. Black is a ground used for instruments and such, and purple is used for tachometer signal.

The "M" terminals are in continuity when the switch is off and open when the switch is on or in run position. Push in the key in start or run position to choke the engine and hold in while cranking--only for a cold engine. When warm you should not need to choke.

Orange is a little special: One wire from "I" goes to one wire of the overheat indicator or one side of the temp gauge. The other wire of the indicator or the other side of the temp gauge goes to the orange wire. The "I" terminal on the switch is used to power accessories (like gauges) that must be powered when the engine is running and not powered when the engine is off. The "I" terminal only receives power from the "B" terminal when the switch is in the on or run position.

On the engine terminal board right by the starter motor, the wires connect like color to like color. Be sure that BLUE is jumped to ground as this is the kill circuit. If either blue or white is disconnected or if blue is not jumped to ground, the engine will start and run but will NOT stop when the ignition is turned off.
 
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