Merc '81 - 470 - Messed up throttle/shift settings while doing tune-up due to coil

emmurphy50

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Hi all...

I have a 81 Wellcraft 196 Sunhatch with a Merc 470, purchased mid-July, pre-Alpha outdrive. It was having the miss issue/bogging down at high RPMs that others seem to have. I did a full tune-up on it including wires, points, condenser, coil, cap, rotor - set timing to 4-5 BDC and dwell was at 29.5 - within range and should wear through the spec. All Merc parts except NGK plugs. I also replaced the thermostat as the engine was running fairly cold (135-140 vs. 160) and fuel economy was admittedly poor from the past owner.

One thing the boat did well is shift very easily and smoothly. Other Merc owners in my family commented how smooth it was.

When I replaced the coil I noticed it was very far forward in the band clamp holding the coil. When I replaced it I centered it in the clamp, having it more aft.

I got out on the water, and at about 65% forward throttle the throttle was sticking, jammed at one point, and used some "elbow grease" to have to free it loose - fearing it was stuck open while underway. Should have just turned off the key in hind sight.

Working it loose, and it having less resistance afterwords, I boated for an hour and when we stopped to let the kids swim, I pulled the cover and saw the throttle linkages were hitting the coil because I did not have it sitting forward in the clamp as before (which looked odd to me when I did the job). My throttle cable runs on the starboard side of the engine and when the cable pulls open to stern, the linkages open in an arc from starboard to port - where it got stuck under the coil which I mounted too far aft.

Since that time the shift is very hard, and late - with RPMs increasing before the shift to about 1000+, the RPMs also go up before I hit the forward idle stop on my throttle handle, which it did not do before.

Also, I had my boat unusually stall while coming into the dock - I suspect the shift engine kill switch was the cause.

I'm guessing I need to do a full shift cable adjustment - is there anything I also need to do with the throttle cable? That is what I probably put the most force or stretch on. Additionally, my shift cables are well behind the engine - any tricks to working on them in the only really confined engine space in my boat?

Finally, while I have you all - the boat ran far better - it got to WOT RPMs (4200) now at 2/3 open throttle (still with a very light miss) with a fairly full boat and 1/3 a tank of gas. Previous to the tune up (or cable misadjustment) I was doing WOT at full throttle. I am not sure if it was the tune-up/stat or cables moving that caused the change.

Any other ideas on the miss - much better but not gone. Other thing I can offer is my tach sticks and needs a number of taps to read - and then will stick again. Read elsewhere this possibly being a contributing problem.

Thanks all...
 
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m_steiger

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Welcome to iBoats! Sounds like your ignition cutoff switch may have got knocked out of adjustment. I would recommend readjusting the cables to factory specs. If you haven't checked out the Adults Only section at the top of the forum, it would be the starting place for getting the manual for your engine. I believe this is the correct manual for your engine. Here is the link: http://boatinfo.no/lib/mercruiser/manuals/mercruiser4.html#/98
 

Bt Doctur

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got to have something wrong there, the coil is nowhere near the carb linkage in the 2 bbl or the 4bb version??????????????????
 

emmurphy50

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I don't believe that's correct - the carb linkage faces forward (vs. aft) and is immediately behind the coil. If you set the coil far enough back, it will hit.
 

Bt Doctur

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Almost seems like someone may have moved your coil from the original place to where it is now.

Does the engine have a belt driven alternator on it? I bet it was moved when the alternator was added.
 

emmurphy50

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Yes, that is what happened, I bet. The coil was relocated to the top of the engine to accomodate the alternator... You will see I got it running and tuned up well. I bent some of the carburetor linkages, including the idle screw not being on the cam. I think it is fine now - anything I should be looking for? The choke unloader is what I think concerns me the most. It runs fine now. Hopefully it will shift well under "load" in the water. The engage point on my throttle is same forward and reverse and before the first detent - so it is centered.

PS: What would a good set RPM be for non-load idle if the load idle is 650-700. I had it idling no load at 660 RPM and didn't stall or hesitate when put in gear.
 
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