Mercury 1150 (inline 6 115hp 1976) starting and power problems

isoaga

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Hello everyone, my friend and i are trying to restore a mercury 1150 inline 6 cyl 1976 (i think) outboard. So far we have rebuilt the gearbox succesfully however at the moment it starts very reluctantly, once running sounds ok but when any load is place on the engine, like putting it in gear in the water the engine stalls. we think the timing neends adjusting however i am unsure how to go about this. i have posted a few pictures of the engine and boat @ http://plasma4.newcastle.edu.au/?page_id=24 specifically the pics right at the bottom show close ups of the distributor and three adjustment screws controlling its posistion and ability to move. When we got the engine the distributor was allowed to move rather a lot? I'm not sure what it is supposed to be able to do. it would be great if someone could give me some details on how to tune or do set the timing on this setup, thanx...
 

700XC

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Re: Mercury 1150 (inline 6 115hp 1976) starting and power problems

The Timming is prob a Mechanical advance and must move with the throttle. It must move as the RPM's pick up to advaqnce the timming with the fuel and air.<br /> This should be sincronized or your motor will not run properly also make sure your points are clean and gapped, replace condencer as it may be contaminated by motor oil or deteriorated from age and you will have a week spark or intemitent. Check and set your dwell to spec. if required. You should try to find a manual for your motor, I have had luck @ my local Library.<br /> Sorry for the bad spelling. Do it right with this motor and you will have a great motor. a buddy of mine has two of them and is looking for a boat that he can mount them both on, not the same year, I think hias are early 70's. have fun and good luck. Check water pump impeller if you have not already done so.
 

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Re: Mercury 1150 (inline 6 115hp 1976) starting and power problems

I'm trying to repair my lower unit right now, but I am unsure what exactly is wrong. How did you know what the gears needed to be rebuilt, and how tough was it? I have a 1976 1500.......
 

Chris1956

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Re: Mercury 1150 (inline 6 115hp 1976) starting and power problems

isoaga, That motor looks to be older(1973) than a 1976, although I am not an expert by far. The distributor versions of these motors require you to set the initial timing and then synch the carbs to this setting (primary pickup), and then set max spark advance. The screws on that plate on the distributor are for throttle stop, max spark advance and idle stop. You will need a timing light to properly perform the adjustments. It is best if you obtain a manual, however I have attached a description of the procedure, originally posted by an inline six rebuilder specialist, who frequents this forum.<br /><br /><br />Credit to Clams Canino for this:<br /><br />Manual specs are different for each but this is close enough to get them all REAL close. This assumes nothing is broken or "wrong" with it. This also assumes that the timing pointer is properly adjusted (if adjustable) to accurately read TDC of the #1 piston.<br /><br />This basic procedure will work for all the 2/3/4/6 cylinder inlines from 1960 to 1988. It's not for the newer 3 and 4 cylinder loopers.<br /><br />Engine off<br /><br />Disconnect throttle cable<br /><br />Pull throttle arm to full throttle and verify carbs open fully. Adjust main throttle stop so that the carbs are JUST hitting thier own little throttle stops. The idea here is that you want the screw stop and NOT the carbs acting as the "final stop" for your throttle lever.<br /><br />Return the throttle to idle, carbs should be closed. Set all idle screws to 2 1/4 turns out from lightly seated.<br /><br />Remove all plugs except #1, hook a timing light to #1. Then follow the narritive.<br /><br />When the throttle is in the idle position the carbs should be fully closed and the ignition retarded. It the amount of retardation that determines your idle speed and is set later with the idle stop screw. <br /><br />Timing Event One - throttle pickup.<br />As the throttle is advanced, the spark timing advances toward TDC and then to before TDC. As the timing is just passing TDC the 1st (minor)throttle pickup should hit and start to open the carbs. Use the timing light. Adjust the tang or trigger screw to make this a reality. All of them are speced different, but if the 1st pickup hits at 3-4 degrees BTDC advance - you win. Use the timing light with a friend cranking it to complete this setting.<br /><br />Timing Event Two - max advance.<br />As you continue to advance the throttle the timing will advance while the carbs slowly open a bit more. The next adjustment is max advance, this is the point where the distibutor (or trigger) can advance no more. Set the max-advance stop to 21 degrees for "direct charge" inlines and 34 degrees for the older crossflows. Use the light, - err to the side of caution.<br /><br />Right after max advance, further throttle motion should cause the second throttle pickup to hit and open the carbs to full. You already set that -now verify it.<br /><br />Leave the throttle cable disconnected and go to the water. Leave the boat strapped to the trailer and back it in so it's deep enought to run. Have a friend crank it while you operate the choke and throttle. Warm it up at 1500 rpms's.<br /><br />When "warm" adjust the idle stop screw for about 800 rpm and then ajust your idle needle(s) in (one at a time) till the motor stumbles. Quickly backing it out 1/2 turn from "stumble" will usually save it from needing a re-start. Do that for all the idle screws. Re-set idle stop for 800.<br /><br />Now have your friend put it in gear (make SURE you are on the transom NOT in the water) and reset your idle stop for as low as you can get it. 500-600rpm is great if your old reeds will let it idle that low in gear. Now, re-adjust the idle screws, in to stumble, then 1/2 turn out. When you've gone back and forth with that a few times and have it "perfect" - adjust each one out 1/4 turn.<br /><br />Reset the idle stop so that it's about 700-800 out of gear and 500-600 in gear. Sometimes bad reeds won't let you get that low, you've GOT to get it under 1000 in neutral (worst case) to avoid beating up your lower unit when you shift into gear, even 1000 is "bad" but like I said "worst case".<br /><br />Now adjust (and hook up)the throttle cable so that with the shifter in neutral, there is light to moderate pressure holding the throttle arm against the idle stop.<br /><br />Take the boat off the trailer and go out in the water. Try the hole shot. If it falls on it's face try adjusting the idle screws out 1/4 turn at a time (all of them together) till you can get a hole shot. You can kind of do this on the trailer at the ramp, but it's not really safe for you, the boat, or the tow vehicle.<br /><br />You're done.<br /><br />-W<br /><br />--------------------<br />C.C. Marine - Lake Hartwell S.C.<br />(cc-marine@earthlink.net)<br /><br />--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 
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Re: Mercury 1150 (inline 6 115hp 1976) starting and power problems

hello, i have a 72-73 mercury 115hp that i just bought and it starts and runs fine in the drive way and at the launch but after idleing out past the dock and when i lean into the throttle to get going it stalls out and won't restart without intense amount of cranking ( and only if i'm lucky enough to get it going before the battery dies). if i do get it started again it will barely idle for a bit like it was flooded, and when it cleans itself out, i lean into it again and it stalls and then i paddle back to the launch.
anyway, i was told that it might be low on compression and they aren't worth rebuilding because of the cost vrs. replacing with something a little newer, so it is at my mechanics now and he will be testing the compression before anything else.

if you get yours running right, please let me know by posting what you did

mike
ontario, canada
 

ClassyGlassy

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Re: Mercury 1150 (inline 6 115hp 1976) starting and power problems

whoever told you these motors weren't worth the money to rebuild is a LAZY LIAR!

They are the best motor ever built!! Best power-to-weight ratio out there.......even by today's standards.

Get it rebuilt...........
 

arsenalpsu

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Re: Mercury 1150 (inline 6 115hp 1976) starting and power problems

hello, i have a 72-73 mercury 115hp that i just bought and it starts and runs fine in the drive way and at the launch but after idleing out past the dock and when i lean into the throttle to get going it stalls out and won't restart without intense amount of cranking ( and only if i'm lucky enough to get it going before the battery dies). if i do get it started again it will barely idle for a bit like it was flooded, and when it cleans itself out, i lean into it again and it stalls and then i paddle back to the launch.
anyway, i was told that it might be low on compression and they aren't worth rebuilding because of the cost vrs. replacing with something a little newer, so it is at my mechanics now and he will be testing the compression before anything else.

if you get yours running right, please let me know by posting what you did

mike
ontario, canada

I would bet (and I'm not a betting man) that you are missing spark on at least 2-3 of your cylinders and it's probably your stator or dist. If you're compression checks out you will need some $$ for ignition parts. Get a manual and do it yourself. To rebuild any motor you're looking +/-$3000 and yes you can find a good used one for a better price or get a good used powerhead and do a swap.
 

foamham

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Re: Mercury 1150 (inline 6 115hp 1976) starting and power problems

depends how many new parts you need. if you just need to bore a cylinder and a new piston and you can do the work yourself it might not cost that much.
 

foamham

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Re: Mercury 1150 (inline 6 115hp 1976) starting and power problems

depends how many new parts you need. if you just need to bore a cylinder and a new piston and you can do the work yourself it might not cost that much.
 
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