Mopar techs needed

[Tubingluvr]

Can anyone tell me what is involved in removing a broken camshaft sensor?
Looked at a 1997 Sebring convertible with a 2.5L that has the crankshaft sensor broke off inside.
I am able to pick this car up for a little bit of nothing.
This was broken by an independent garage and then they wanted to charge her to repair it even though their mechanic broke it off.
I am not sure if you can access this by seperating the engine and trans or if you could get at it a little better by removing the intake.
Any suggestions would be great.

 

[redfury]

Re: Mopar techs needed

Well, I'm no mechanic, but the camshaft sensor is usually located in the valley of the block on the V motors ( 6,8) and requires pulling the intake manifold off to access it. The fact that they broke it off makes me wonder what else is going on with the motor...The sensor shouldn't just "break" as all it is, is a magnetic pick up like the crank sensor. There is the off chance that the plastic housing broke and swelled up to the point where they couldn't "remove" the sensor by just unbolting it....could be stuck. IF that's the case, then you're pretty much looking at having to dig it out piece by piece and then cleaning the engine out of any debris from it, which is probably why it's out there for so cheap...probably very labor intensive.

Not to say that it can't be done, but that would be my guess. It comes down to- do you have enough time and patience to monkey with the car to make it worth your while?

 

[redfury]

Re: Mopar techs needed

Hold on a sec...2.5L, that should be a 4 banger correct? I don't see how a camshaft sensor could be causing that much of an issue as to being able to get the car next to nothing and the mechanic not fixing it...something seems fishy...how did the mechanic break a sensor like this in the first place...I still want to know that...was the car in for a timing belt or ???

Just checked, the 2.4 is the 4, the 2.5 is the 6 cylinder. According to Autozone, there is no camshaft position sensor listed, just a crankshaft position sensor.

according to their website it's located

Under hood, driver side, upper engine area, mounted on end of engine block

 

[dolluper]

Re: Mopar techs needed

put a dry wall screw in her and pull her out

 

[Tubingluvr]

Re: Mopar techs needed

sorry my mistake, it is the crankshaft position sensor.
It was in the shop because it wasn't running...they diagnosed it as the crankshaft position sensor and when trying to replace it, they broke the old one off.
According to what I've read online the sensor is in the trans and i will need to seperate engine and trans and push out from the inside, but i was hoping to hear from an expert that could verify this for me.

 

[Autotech]

Re: Mopar techs needed

I may be wrong but I think 2.5 has a distributor right??? Camshaft sensor is in the Distributor. Crankshaft sensor on the right side of bellhousing.

 

[Tubingluvr]

Re: Mopar techs needed

I may be wrong but I think 2.5 has a distributor right??? Camshaft sensor is in the Distributor. Crankshaft sensor on the right side of bellhousing.

Yes I believe that is correct

 

[Autotech]

Re: Mopar techs needed

Been to long since I've seen one so I dont remember it you can get a drill in there or not. But most of the time I drill a hole in the sensor insert a screw and and pull it out. A few I had to drill all the way to keep from pulling trans.

 

[dolluper]

Re: Mopar techs needed

If your going to do the drywall screw heat the screw up first I forgot to mention sorry about that...has worked alot of times for me

 

[redfury]

Re: Mopar techs needed

The crankshaft sensor is not in the transmission, it is going to be somewhere where it can read the rotation of the crankshaft inside the engine. It's going to depend on exactly what dodge is reading the crank rotation off of. I know on my two GM's, they had the sensor mounted in the middle of the block, between the engine and the transmission, about halfway and they were a real PITA to get at.

You may have to separate the engine and tranny just to get access to the sensor with tools to remove it now that it is broken. If you don't have an overhead lift of some sort ( cherry picker, gantry, etc ) they you are going to have a tough time with it.

I'm willing to bet that the shop working on it figured they needed to replace it, but when it broke off, realized that the man hours to fix it were too many to eat and would have to charge for the labor. It's not their fault, things like this happen and can't be predetermined. It sucks for the owner of the car, but that's how it goes sometimes.

Regardless, like I said earlier, unless you have the time, tools and patience to do the job ( not to mention aptitude ), it's just going to end up sitting at your place going nowhere.