Need feedback on my now "complete" floor / stringer 19ft stingray

BWalt302

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Hi everyone. So I purchased this boat last year and rode it all summer. Cut up a small section of rotten floor, patched it and kept on riding.

Fast forward to around two months or so ago. I cut up the entire floor. Found rotten stringers (partially). So, I dug out / shop vacced the rot, and let the boat sit open for a few weeks with a fan on it.

I then sanded the old glass (what was left anyways) around the old stringers off with a grinder and a flap disc (36 grit I think). I then proceeded to raise the stringers 1/2" with ripped plywood and coated in West Systems Expoxy Resin. I then layered up 3 layers of 1708 biax and west systems epoxy on the outer two stringers, and two layers on the center stringer. I made the glass so wide it covered the entire stringers and on each side of the hull around 6 inches or so. Probably a little excessive, but I wanted to do the best I could.

This is my first attempt at a project like this, although I have repaired large holes in glass boats in the past (also attached some photos of that just for giggles)

I replaced all foam w/ 2LBS two part foam.

I then cut new floor (1/2 outdoor plywood) and coated it once with thinned epoxy. And then coated it again a few hours later.

I mixed up some West Systems Epoxy and thickened it with 403 Powder. I "glued" down the new floor on the now raised stringers. I then screwed into the middle stringers (I know I probably shouldn't have, but I wasn't sure how well my glue would hold down. I removed the screws after making holes and shot in 3M 5200. I then added screws back.

In the photos attached, you will see a photo that says "Foam". This is where my gas tank goes. I replaced the floor on top of that, but couldn't get the tank to fit. So I had to cut up a section of my new floor, luckily a bit of the old floor remained in this section (it wasn't rotten much here). After cutting up the new floor, and exposing the old, I filled the little square area you see with a new piece of 1/2" plywood (coated w/ epoxy like above) and sit it down into the original area where the tank support was. Should I be concerned that this will be a weak spot? The transom is solid, took core samples last year.

I also strengthened up the bulk head where the motor sits w/ two layers of 1708, even though it wasn't really rotten.

I know it would have probably been best to completely replace the stringers, but money, the amount of what the boat is worth, etc. steered me in the direction I went. I also glassed together all of the seams where the new floor boards met.

I am considering selling the boat since I already purchased a Supra, but would also like to consider keeping it if I cant get much for it, so I will likely have it awhile.

The boat is a 1981 19" Stingray closed bow. The foam from what I can see up front wasn't wet. The engine is a 4clinder mercruiser.

Do you think that the boat is going to fall apart or give me much trouble? Should I have glassed the new floor up the side where the blue carpet / wood area meets?
 

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BWalt302

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Update: I have taken to boat out 3 times, it actually sits higher in the water, I guess it was so waterlogged with the wet foam I removed.

It also loads on the trailer way easier (roller trailer) - previously I had to shift it or add weight to one side to prevent roller from sitting on strake.

I am still curious about my fuel tank area where I had to re work my new floor, feedback would be great!

I also am considering if I should drill a hole through the area (bulkhead) where the engine mounts to the floor (limber hole?) to keep water draining when it does get under the new floor, any recommendations?
 

Chris1956

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Floors (actually boat decks) should be sealed. Water should not get under them, so any kind of drainage is counterproductive.

Stringers should have been replaced with new dry pressure treated solid lumber. Foam should be cut even with the tops of the stringers and the new deck screwed into the new stringers, with SS wood screws.

The new decking must be attached in some fashion all around the perimeter. Where the deck could not be attached with screws, I have used saturated cloth strips under it and cinder blocks above to hold it until the resin cured. Then cover seams on top of deck with saturated cloth to seal it up.

Also, poly resin and cloth are fine for this kind of repair. Epoxy is overkill,especially on your wallet.
 

BWalt302

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Yeah I realize I should have done new wood but I had read a few times here and elsewhere that all glass stringers can be done - so I opted for that.

I did forget to mention but should note that around the entire parameter (sides where I left old floor) I used thickened epoxy to glue down those areas in addition to the glue that i used on the stringers themselves (plus screws in stringers).

Should I rip the floor back out and start over? I didn’t fill the foam all the way, but did add a little more in addition to he photos shown.

Good to know for polyester, I’ll keep that in mind for future projects.
 

Chris1956

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I would leave it alone for now. If the floor starts to separate or the hull is not strong, then revision is needed.
 

BWalt302

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Just wanted to update everyone. I just did some maintenance on the boat and started reminiscing on this repair. I just replaced the u-joints, bellows, trim senders, exhaust manifold, alternator, starter, and a few other random items.

I’ve had the boat out literally hundreds of times since this post. Intracoastal waterway included and slayed some drum last year; but mainly my local lakes cat fishing. I tend to baby it over rough waters as I’m still paranoid about any of my repairs, lol.

No issues as far as I can tell. If anyone feels like chiming in I do have a question regarding.

Question: The area where I always get in the boat (starboard behind the bench seat near the seam connecting back piece to mid section as shown in earlier photos) has developed a bit of a flex (minimal but noticeable to me). Not a flex like rot (hasn’t been exposed to water really) but the kind of flex I assume comes from repeatedly climbing in and out on top of the 1/2” plywood (just like the wood in my attic). Knowing what I know now, the closed cell foam should have been flush with the stringers and bottom of the new deck as Chris mentioned, which would have acted as some support. Should I be concerned that this is happening? Or is this normal wear and tear okay?

I’ve thought about drilling a small hole and injecting some new foam to help. Or should I rip up the floor? Or should I just not worry about it?

As always, any feedback is greatly appreciated. I’m almost ready to upgrade to a larger center console for the newborn but me and the wife just love this thing so much. My wife made me keep this over the Supra ski boat I purchased around the time I was doing the floor job. Not bad for an initial $1600 purchase price.
 

Chris1956

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The floor (deck) should not flex. Inspect the fiberglass over the deck and see if it is cracked or has some other defect.

You could add a piece of glass/resin over the seam, where you board, to stiffen it.
 
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