Need help determing model

[boatbeginner1]

Hello! I am about to purchase a 1967 Starcraft 15 footer! Not sure what model though. I will post more pictures when I get them! thanks!

 

[jbcurt00]

Re: Need help determing model

iboats is having a few problems w/ pix, so your attachment pix won't open... But you can look thru the 1967 SC brochure, if it's a tinny, but it's hard to read the details on the spec page....

It's a little easier to read the spec page here. If it's 15' bow to transom, 57" wide across the transom, and has a max beam of 66" it's probably a Jetstar. Maybe the only 15' aluminum closed bow runabout model SC built that year. Or at least only 1 listed in the brochure....

More & better pix will help confirm the 1967. The title & registration are often found to be incorrect. It is often significantly more difficult then it's worth to change those docs though.


Pending purchase, welcome.

Get some good pix when you inspect it. The lapstrakes & etc can help ID a year, as can the shape of the transom....

 

[boatbeginner1]

Re: Need help determing model

http://richmond.craigslist.org/boa/3218391208.html

It's a tinny and supposivly 15'

 

[jbcurt00]

Re: Need help determing model

I'm sorry, what I meant is exactly 15'. My 1963 15' Jet is really 14' 9" :facepalm: And other years & models varied +/- from 15'. The spec sheet, from FG I posted, for 1967 lists the Jetstar as 15' so it's probably 15'.

My Jet was previously registered as a 1974, but it's clearly not. And that's fairly common to have it titled or registered incorrectly. It's now titled as a 1963, but WV doesn't recognize anything but the foot measurements for titles & registrations, so when I listed it as 14' 9", the DMV dropped the 9" & it's listed on the reg & title as a 14'.... 1 step forward, 1 step back... Not worth the trouble to me to change it, so I'll leave it. Besides, my boss & I already have an agreement for him to buy it. So when he transfers the title he may change it, but probably not.

BTW: The OB looks it might be an electric shift model. If you can't see & hear the motor running & the prop spinning in both forward & reverse, consider the motor as NON-EXISTENT for the purposes of the buying the boat. In fact, a wet test drive would be better. When they work, they work fine. But it can be tough to find the parts (electric shifting solenoids) in the gear case of the lower unit, when they start to fail.

If the OB has a shift lever on the starboard side of the motor, it's not electric shift.

google electric shift johnson & you can read thru some info about the motor, if it's electric shift.

The 1967 Jet could also take at least a 50hp motor, as listed on that spec sheet. So you may be looking to re-power it soon anyway.

As always, try to get the best deal you can, be prepared for someone else to pay full asking, and to have to walk away if the seller won't deal on price (esp if electric shift or you don't see it running).

In this last pix, it looks like there's a gear shift cable loose & just hanging there on the left side of the pix. That should indicate that I am incorrect & it's a mechanical shift, not an electric shift. But see if the seller will give you the model #. Then you can confirm it's a 1967 +/- OB & electric/manual shift.

You can go thru the 1967 Johnson's parts lists here. If the model isn't listed, go back up thru the years before & after 1967, or try just listing the model#, that website may find it's year & etc for you from that #...


When are you going to be able to get your hands on her & decide yes or no about the purchase?

 

[boatbeginner1]

Re: Need help determing model

I am going to try to get a test drive but if not possible, I may try to run it in a trashcan. I think its a 1967 2-Cyl 33-HP engine.

Since I am new to this, what will I need to look for? What is the difference between manual and electric shift?

I am waiting to here back form the seller on when I can view then boat.

 

[jbcurt00]

Re: Need help determing model

If the OB has a shift lever on the starboard side of the motor, it's not electric shift. In the last pix, it looks like there's a gear shift cable loose & just hanging there on the left side of the pix. That should indicate that I am incorrect & it's a mechanical shift, not an electric shift. But see if the seller will give you the model #. Then you can confirm it's a 1967 +/- OB & electric/manual shift.

You can go thru the 1967 Johnson's parts lists here. If the model isn't listed, go back up thru the years before & after 1967, or try just listing the model#, that website may find it's year & etc for you from that #

I am going to try to get a test drive but if not possible, I may try to run it in a trashcan. I think its a 1967 2-Cyl 33-HP engine. Since I am new to this, what will I need to look for? What is the difference between manual and electric shift?

Use that link & look thru the different motors listed for 1967 as 33hp. (EDIT: The 5 digit numbers only models, the parts diagrams are not available) But the shift linkage in this pix & whether or not it has a shift lever on the left (from the front) side of the motor like in this Model # RX-15 parts diagram pgs 18 & 19:

Part # 90 is the mechanical shift arm

When you see the motor, it'll be clear if it has that mechanical linkage.

 

[boatbeginner1]

Re: Need help determing model

Ok, I am waiting for more pictures and I will post them when I recieve them

 

[lakelover]

Re: Need help determing model

I'm sorry, what I meant is exactly 15'. My 1963 15' Jet is really 14' 9" :facepalm: And other years & models varied +/- from 15'. The spec sheet, from FG I posted, for 1967 lists the Jetstar as 15' so it's probably 15'.

My '64 Jet Star is 14'10", give or take an inch, and listed as 15'. I don't know, did they have the larger & higher splashwell and braced windshield by '67? What about Falcon, or was that 14'? I know, I'm probably confusing the issue.

Definitely looks like a Jet Star.

 

[jbcurt00]

Re: Need help determing model

I think the '67 brochure lists the Falcon as 14'..

 

[North Beach]

Re: Need help determing model

I'd say if it's a 67 then it's most likely the 14 foot Falcon. That's the only boat that year with the red top. Looks like maybe someone has repainted the hull white, see the white over the Starcraft emblems on the sides. They always came in black. The falcon was rated for up to 40hp.