Need help finding a carb rebuild kit - Johnson 88 spl. 2 cycle v4 engine with 2 carbs

[Eric Fife]

Hey all!

Im thinking i need to rebuild my carbs (hard to start, low idle) and i cannot locate the right part number for the kit. I do not know the exact model of the engine cause the plate on the engine with that info is long gone, and i cannot find any stamping with the engines m/n anywhere!. All i know is that it is a johnson 88 spl. 2 cycle v4 engine with 2 carbs. I have been looking on the net but i am seeing tons of different p/n's for the rebuild kit.

The boat is a 1989 bass tracker tournament v17 pro

If someone could help me locate the correct part number for the rebuild kit id be forever grateful!

 

[racerone]

What other trouble shooting have you done ?-------I would say that the motor has an electric primer valve that opens when you push the key in.-----Therefor the carburetors are not in the picture for starting.------What is your starting procedure ?----Any pictures of your motor that might pinpoint the year ?

 

[Eric Fife]

not much. i did check the plugs.

it does indeed have this valve you speak of. i prime it till the bulb gets hard to squeeze, push the key in and i hear a click from the engine as i do so, count to 10 and then attempt to start it. i was told by a marine shop here that i have to prime that bulb far beyond very hard to squeeze. i tried that and it floods everytime so i go by the start up procedure i just listed...which i found on iboats i think.

the problems it is presenting is: extremely hard to start up if its been sitting for more than a few days. (10 minutes of grinding the starter minimum) AND sometimes the idle is low enough to try to die but only while in the water. I did do a seafoam treatment (full bottle in 1 gallon of gas hooked directly to the engine while spraying seafoam in the carbs) That caused it to idle fine when i start it with the ear muffs on in the driveway. The engine runs good and strong otherwise. i can easily get 6500 rpms and maybe more with a speed of about 33mph.

Once i get it warmed up out on the water, i can shut it down for hours and it fires right back up with no issues at all. I always put the muffs on and start it in the driveway and let it run for 15 minutes to warm up and then i take it to the launch.

when i got the boat about 6 months ago... it started easy enough (several tries but within 2 minutes of trying) but it wasnt idling good at all until i seafoamed it. this is why i think a carb rebuild will help at least some. the previous owner ran unleaded in it with sta-bil. i did the same up until about 2 weeks ago when i switched to marine gas only.

im still needing the part numbers for the carbs. they are cheap and easy to rebuild so may as well yea?

 

[racerone]

Prime the bulb.----Raise the fast idle lever.-----Push key in WHILE cranking it over.----Motor should start near instantly.----If not then trouble shooting needs to be done.----6500 RPM will destroy your fine motor.-----Any Evinrude dealer will have the carburetor kit in stock.----Too lazy today to look it up for you today.

 

[Eric Fife]

whoah wait... what fast idle lever? also i do push in the key as im cranking. i did call a dealer and they were of no help (bass pro shops here in tallahassee) this is another reason im asking for the p/n.

anyone else willing to help me find the p/n? thanks

 

[racerone]

Post a picture of your control box.----Carburetor kit is the same from 1980 models to the 1998 ( last year ) models.-----I can't believe your local shop will not help you !!!

 

[Eric Fife]

the control box i put in myself if we are talking about dash switches. if by fast idle lever you mean putting the boat in neutral and advancing the throttle a lil bit for faster idle...yea i got that! and yea i do put it in neutral and give it a bit of throttle to start it...otherwise it will just sit there and hit, hit , hit while cranking and not start.

bass pro said to me that they dont have the ability to look up that part for some reason or another. it was the tracker shop i spoke to. also, even typing in the part number which i think might be the right one, looking at several kits, each kits gaskets are shaped different. this has got me worried that i will buy the wrong kits and have to wait for return and crap to get the job done.

i was hoping that someone reading this post ACTUALLY owns one of these boats and has done this before and could steer me to the right kit. finding the right kit is giving me a massive headache! so since i cant seem to get that help here...ill just take the carbs off and take it to a local shop here and let them find the right kit for me.

 

[racerone]

As stated the kits were all the same for the V-4 crossflows-----85 , 88 , 90 , 100 , 110, 115 , 140 HP models from 1980 to 1998.------Have them on hand here.-------This should be easy for the shop to determine.

 

[oldboat1]

Walking into a shop with the carbs in hand probably won't get you an answer either, certainly not where you've been so far. Remove one of the gaskets, and go to a NAPA shop. Ask to see the marine catalog, and see if you can find a gasket to match -- order that kit. (will be a Sierra kit, which will be fine)

[edit. If you think it's an 89, check the shape of the gasket here: http://ww2.iboats.com/Carburetor/dm/cart_id.380744623--session_id.297103540--view_id.1541089 Can buy the kit here.]

 

[racerone]

Just a few clicks on this site ( iboats ) will find that gasket and the kit.----No need to spend a lot of effort

 

[havoc_squad]

Just a few clicks on this site ( iboats ) will find that gasket and the kit.----No need to spend a lot of effort

Yes, iBoats and other major competing marine outboard part websites usually do a good job narrowing down the choices to the correct model.

At minimum for OMC you need: model number. Listed on the port side of the midsection of the motor.

Two ways to look it up: most require model for OMC.

The other way is: Year -> HP -> engine type (major engine variation).

The other helpful important part is getting a factory service manual, avoid SELOC or Clymer. E-Bay or one of the licensed companies allowed to sell digital copies or re-prints can get you one.

You will most likely need it if you never have properly done the "link and synch" procedure.

If you run into obstacles, give details of the steps taken and the underlying question needing an answer.

Generic questions never fix anything. Try getting help from a doctor when sick without being detailed, it doesn't end well.

 

[oldboat1]

He doesn't have the year or model number. '89 is probably a reasonable guess if the Tracker boat is correctly an '89 -- but not a sure thing. Can't get a model-specific manual without the info.

 

[racerone]

?---As stated the carburetor kits for the V-4 crossflow models from 1980 to 1998 are listed to be the same !

 

[Newbie@boats]

Unless the bowl gasket or other gaskets are leaking gas Visibly I’ve done 100s Of carb rebuilds without “rebuild” kits with great success. I usually strip them down, remove gaskets and any type of plastic from the carb. Get a gallon of carb clean let carb body and jets soak over night the carbs come out looking brand new and works excellent.

 

[racerone]

But the original poster has CONVINCED himself that he needs to put in some carburetor kits