never skied, need advise

fishrdan

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Re: never skied, need advise

I'm not an expert by any stretch, but I wished the people I started skiing with never handed me 2 ski's. 1 ski is much easier to control once you get the hang of it, and easier to learn,,, from my experience.
 

grahamh

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Re: never skied, need advise

Hold on tight! The handle pulled right out of my hands a lot when I was first learning!

From my experience, 2 skis is much easier, you come out of the water faster, and I never had a problem keeping them from splaying out, but I think some beginner skis can be connected at the tips to prevent this, but I've never tried.

Finally, the more powerful the boat (to a point) the easier it will be, getting up behind an underpowered boat is much harder,
 

tashasdaddy

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Re: never skied, need advise

read the 1st post in this forum.
 

yfzjim

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yes, i read it but i didnt really get an opinion if it were better to start on 1 or 2
 

actionljackson

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Re: never skied, need advise

Just get out and do it!!!!!!!!!!!!!
What may have been easier for someone else may not work for you.Take two skis and give it a shot at both.I started with two and rode for a bit then dropped one.
~Leo
 

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I've done this sport for years and taught many first timers. A few have ignored me and insisted on trying to get up on one ski right off the bat. Nobody has done it yet. You have to crawl and then walk before you can run. Here's what you need to do:
1) Get yourself a pair of beginner combo skis. Don't buy high end yet, because you are not good enough to warrant it and you won't be able to handle it either. Yes, 2 skis!! One of these is going to have a toe strap behind the binding. After you are proficient on 2 skis you will start to use it, but for now, just ignore it.
2) Form to get up is that you let your lifejacket float your body while you keep your ski tips up and shoulder width apart. Your knees should be bent as if sitting in a chair. Your arms should be straight. The driver guns it and you just slowly stand up as you roll forward.
3) Once up, practice turning.
4) After a few runs like this, try shifting all your weight to one ski. You don't have to lift the other ski, just put virtually all your weight onto the one ski. This is preparing you for trying slalom (one ski). The foot that you put your weight onto is skier preference. This is the foot that will be in the front binding in slalom and most use the left foot for this, but it's your choice.
5) Next step is to learn to drop a ski. You slacken off the binding of the drop ski before you get in the water. If you can't get it slack enough just step on the heel piece so that only your toes are in the binding. Once you get up on 2 skis and the boat hits normal speed, just step out of the ski. Heel out first and then let your toe come out as the ski falls behind you. At this point you will probably fall multiple times. It seems to take people quite a few tries before they get it. You put the rear foot into the rear toe strap and away you go - now you are slaloming.
6) Next is deep water start: there are 2 ways - both feet in, or rear foot out dragging behind you. If you have a boat with good power then both feet in is possible. If power is poor then you'll need to drag a foot.
7) Now that you've learned how to slalom, go buy a better ski, and then later guy buy a better, better ski as you improve even more. Whatever you do, don't go out buying the high-end professional slalom until you are ready for it. These slaloms are wonderful for those that have the experience to be able to handle the wicked acceleration and fast response that they deliver. For a beginner they could be a bit dangerous.
 

yfzjim

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Re: never skied, need advise

ok guys thanks for all the tips. now i just need to get out and try it before it gets too cold!!
 

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Re: never skied, need advise

It is much easier to learn to ski on two skis.
 

haulnazz15

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Re: never skied, need advise

Learn on 2. Getting up on two skis is much, much easier than on 1 ski. Deep starting on slolam, especially without a high-powered boat can be a fight sometimes. The slolam-ski tip will want to go back and forth and getting your balance takes some getting used to. Learning on 2 skis allows you to learn body positioning, turns/crossing the wake, and how to absord other boats' wakes.

I learned to slolam via deep water start, but that's only because it is illegal to drop a ski on my primary lake as it creates a hazard to boaters while floating (and they can be hard to spot later if you don't have another boat to pick it up.) Dropping a ski is the least taxing on the body, but a deep-water start behnd a good boat isn't much different than 2 skis once you've gotten the hang of it. I recommend a ski rope/handle with a deep V built into it which allows you to put the tip of the slolam ski into it for deep-water starts. It will hold the tip steady until you are on top of the water.
 

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Re: never skied, need advise

Two skis worked for me, but everytime I tried the roll forward and stand up I face planted. What works for me is leaning back and armstronging myself out and up.
 

haulnazz15

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What works better than "armstronging" is having a boat strong enough to do the work for you. :) Then you just hold on, and the skis do the work!
 

Blue Crabber

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Re: never skied, need advise

It is much easier to learn to ski on two skis.

This is how I learned this past summer. Now working on dropping one but have not been successful on that yet.

everytime I tried the roll forward and stand up I face planted. What works for me is leaning back and armstronging myself out and up.

This is also how I get up. Since the boat is always full of people and I only have a carbed V6 (175HP) it doesn't pop right up on plane. I lean back and mantain this position and drag in the water until the boat has enough speed to pull me up.

ok guys thanks for all the tips. now i just need to get out and try it before it gets too cold!!

So, have you had a chance to try it yet? Good luck!
 

RoyR

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All good info, first you must find a boat with a small wake and flat water...:) Otherwise you might as learn to wakeboard.
 

yfzjim

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still havent got out on the water yet. it has been raining here for a week straight! supposed to clear up tommorow. I may not make it this year!
 

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I think it is much easier to learn on two, you have more surface area to work with. Controlling the skis is not too big of an effort and easy to figure out after attempting to get up once or twice. Once you have mastered standing on two then go to one. Keep in mind that a more powerful boat will be easier. I ski on one all of the time but when I get behind a less powerful boat I always drag for a while before i can stand all the way up, if you do not know how to ski on one you will not be able to drag and get up, it is too tiring. On both one and two skis you have to find that happy medium where you lean back some but not too much it will be different for every one but you need to find where that position is. Do not try to stand up too fast you will always fall, you need to make sure the boat is pulling you fast enough before you try to stand up. Hope this helps and good luck.
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haulnazz15

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Re: never skied, need advise

Hello,

I expect you see many of these threads posted up, so I will try to be brief. I was wondering if anyone has some advice to offer me as to purchasing a slalom ski. I have not had a huge amount of experience, however I have loved the times I have gone and am eager to keep waterskiing. My level is probably intermediate, I can cut alright but I would like to be able to cut better with some stability and control. I was leaning towards the Connelly Concept, and then I was told that Radars were much better. My budget is under $600 with bindings and all. Also, should I get one used, or factory blemished? Thanks very much.

Cheers,
Mack.

Definitely buy used or factory blemished. No reason to spend $600 for something that works te same as last years model for $400. You need to make sure you get the correct size for your weight. Longer skis carry more speed, shorter skis generally allow a harder cut. If you aren't running a slolam course it really isn't that big of a deal. You can search the internet for reviews, but what one person likes, another person dislikes. Don't buy based on paintscheme or other non-performance based enhancements.

I've heard good things about the Concept, and any of the major brands makes excellent skis. I plan on getting the F1X from Connelly as I have been a recreational slolam skier for years and would like to get a great slolam ski that isn't necessarily the "competition elite". Also think about what type of bindings you want (rear toe plate/strap/double boots)
 

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Re: never skied, need advise

I've done this sport for years and taught many first timers. A few have ignored me and insisted on trying to get up on one ski right off the bat. Nobody has done it yet. You have to crawl and then walk before you can run. Here's what you need to do:
1) Get yourself a pair of beginner combo skis. Don't buy high end yet, because you are not good enough to warrant it and you won't be able to handle it either. Yes, 2 skis!! One of these is going to have a toe strap behind the binding. After you are proficient on 2 skis you will start to use it, but for now, just ignore it.
2) Form to get up is that you let your lifejacket float your body while you keep your ski tips up and shoulder width apart. Your knees should be bent as if sitting in a chair. Your arms should be straight. The driver guns it and you just slowly stand up as you roll forward.
3) Once up, practice turning.
4) After a few runs like this, try shifting all your weight to one ski. You don't have to lift the other ski, just put virtually all your weight onto the one ski. This is preparing you for trying slalom (one ski). The foot that you put your weight onto is skier preference. This is the foot that will be in the front binding in slalom and most use the left foot for this, but it's your choice.
5) Next step is to learn to drop a ski. You slacken off the binding of the drop ski before you get in the water. If you can't get it slack enough just step on the heel piece so that only your toes are in the binding. Once you get up on 2 skis and the boat hits normal speed, just step out of the ski. Heel out first and then let your toe come out as the ski falls behind you. At this point you will probably fall multiple times. It seems to take people quite a few tries before they get it. You put the rear foot into the rear toe strap and away you go - now you are slaloming.
6) Next is deep water start: there are 2 ways - both feet in, or rear foot out dragging behind you. If you have a boat with good power then both feet in is possible. If power is poor then you'll need to drag a foot.
7) Now that you've learned how to slalom, go buy a better ski, and then later guy buy a better, better ski as you improve even more. Whatever you do, don't go out buying the high-end professional slalom until you are ready for it. These slaloms are wonderful for those that have the experience to be able to handle the wicked acceleration and fast response that they deliver. For a beginner they could be a bit dangerous.

Thanks for sharing such great experience..

Allmand Boats
 

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Re: never skied, need advise

Bah....I haven't 2 skied since I was a wee lad. ;)

Grab that slalom ski, put your front foot in, and float in the water in a 'lunge' position, with the ski out front, tip up and your free leg well behind you.

Yell 'hit it!' and start trying to balance on the ski as you start coming out of the water, with your other leg splayed out for balance.

Before you know it, you're standing in the ski with both feet and the people on the boat are cheering.

:)
 

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Re: never skied, need advise

Bah....I haven't 2 skied since I was a wee lad. ;)

Grab that slalom ski, put your front foot in, and float in the water in a 'lunge' position, with the ski out front, tip up and your free leg well behind you.

Yell 'hit it!' and start trying to balance on the ski as you start coming out of the water, with your other leg splayed out for balance.

Before you know it, you're standing in the ski with both feet and the people on the boat are cheering.

:)

Laughing.. But by your statment you must have started out 2 skied...
 
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