New c6 Corvette pictures

LubeDude · Dec 9, 2003

What do you all think??? LubeDude

Boomyal · Dec 9, 2003

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That don't look like it's in your garage Lubedude!

LubeDude · Dec 9, 2003

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No, I just work on the old ones! Cant aford to own one! Hasbeen

SoulWinner · Dec 10, 2003

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They're calling THAT a c-6?!?! Well, leave to GM to stick a slightly different piece of plastic on the front and back of the car and call it a redisign. I wouldn' hit you in the ash with one of those rattle trap crap heaps. Hope FROD beats the snot out of 'Vette sales when the GT 40 comes out. Too bad they are asking just bit too much for it.

JasonJ · Dec 10, 2003

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Doesn't look too bad. Is it just a re-skin on the current chassis? Thats not a bad thing, as the current chassis makes the car almost worth its price tag, even if it is a GM...Now, the new retro-ish Mustang looks like it will be pretty slick, and is priced a little closer to reality. If we are talkin' performance vehicles, I will tend to lean towards the Germans or Italians, and to a lesser extent, the Japanese, they still make better performance vehicles than we do (Unfortunately), but we are the master of the inefficient needless SUV that is unstable and way too much vehicle to get groceries and kids to the soccer game. Give me a good pickup truck that is actually useful, or a good safe multi use vehicle like the Volvo Cross Country or X90, something that is actually more in line with what people really need (too bad the Volvos are spendy). Subaru all wheel drive wagons are another good useful vehicle that is relatively economical and is all the average family really needs...

Knightgang · Dec 10, 2003

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JasonJ, I have to agree that the way the SUV has evolved, many are useless, unstable and have become more of an ineffecent status symbol. However, if you have three kids under 5 years old, and take regular trips to see family that are in excess of 2 and 4 hour drives, and ocassionaly tow some sort of trailer or boat with you, then there is nothing better than our Suburban. Big -- Yes. Gas Guzzler -- Yes. But very practical for this application. I love ours and will trade it for nothing. Many are not practical because of the actual way they are used, but they had a very practical purpose in the begining and some are still used under that same premise. One thing about foreign cars, they built in reliability long before detroit decided that planned obselencence would kill them. I think now, most cars are about the same, but you still get what you pay for, therefore I do not buy new..

KennyKenCan · Dec 10, 2003

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The new C-6 is one gourgous car! In case most of you don't know, the new C-6 is new from the ground up! Nothing from the C-5's chassis is on the C-6! The only thing the C-5 & C-6 share are the electronics and engine. Even the transmissions are new! You guys are trying to compare a production sports car against an exotic sports car, your all barking up a tree! How can you compare a $86,000 Corvette against a $350,000 Ferrarri, or a $125,000 Mercedes? Chevrolet produces over 45,000 Corvettes each year, yet Ferrarri produced 100 Enzo's each year, and they no longer build it anymore, and Mercedes produces less than 5000 SEL 500's! WOW, a wopping 3 years of production for that Ferrarri! Ford only plans to build 500 GT-40's each year once production begins. And its doubtful if they will build it more than 3 years straight! And one more thing, Why is it that the Corvette has won the 24 Hours of LeMans, and 24 Hours at Daytona for the past 3 years? Thats proof of the quality and performance of the Corvette! You can keep your Mercedes, and Porches, and Ferrarris, and Volvo's! And remember this the next time your out of work, and your BMW, or Mercedes, or Volvo breaks down and is need of repair, that the profits of those repair parts are going to help those in Sweden and Germany and Italy, not you here in the US! Remember, of all aftermarket parts , there is a Royalty paid to the manufacturer...in Germany, Sweden, Italy, etc... If you enjoy supporting the economy of those nations, thats fine and dandy, but don't you dare complain that the American economy is bad, because those of you who purchase them imports are a direct reason for a poor American economy! And by the way, I do own a Lotus Espris, but I bought it as a wreck, with one purpose in mind, to repair it and sell it, for a profit of coarse! This is the only import I have ever owned, and I'll guarentee you you this, it's the last!! Too expensive for those parts that are not going to help my fellow countrymen! I truely hate supporting the British economy.

SoulWinner · Dec 10, 2003

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Kenny, First off, the US economy is fine and thanks to GW it's getting better everyday. As for the Vettes in LeMans and Daytona, lets see them compete with a bone stock Vette. Corvettes are crappy pieces of crappy crap. I'd rather have a freakin kit car. As for supporting a foreign economy, well I buy my Toyotas used. I rarely need factory replacement parts......in fact, in the 14 years I've driven Toyotas, I have NEVER bough a factory replacement part. But I would rather support the Japanese auto maker that provides me with reliability, longevity and high resale value than support the POS UAW ridden company that supplied the US car buyer with such crap as the Aries K, 1979 Granada, 1998 GMC Jimmy. American auto makers have crapped on the American consumer so bad for so long that Ican't understand why ANYONE would waste thier hard earned dollars on anything coming out of Detroit. Haven't you been screwed enough?? Maybe some folks just like it up the ash

LubeDude · Dec 10, 2003

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Go Kenny, You the man!! Ya, I like the C6 too, However its going to have to grow on me a little. It took me awhile to get used to the C5s! I think I would be driving a C5 if I could talk my wife into it!! She says they have a "FAT B*TT". I cant get her out of her RX/7, It is a fun car though and I do enjoy driving it!! I wonder if they "GM" figured out the piston slapping problem with the LS1s!! I know that they have, I just wonder if they changed it in the new C6?? I have the opportunity to work on, Porsche, Ferrari, BMW, Mercedes. I dont like them much, they do seem to be a little more on the cutting edge in some ways, Braided steel lines and such, But you spend more for that! The older Porsches definatly handle better than the older Corvette, But they cost a lot more too! But there is nothing like the sound of a solid lifter engine and two fours winding out, WAAAAWAAAAAWAAAA, Oh YAAAAA!!!

LubeDude

KennyKenCan · Dec 10, 2003

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SoulWinner, Well everytime you go to your local NAPA, Carquest, AutoZone, or PEP Boys for parts for that Toyota, a good potion of what you paid for whatever part you bought, goes striaght to Japan!!! Everytime I buy a part for my Chevy, all the money stays in the USA, and supports my fellow countryman, by keeping their jobs here!!!!! I have freinds who have had Toyota's, Acura's, and Nissans. Well, the '98 Toyota lasted 53,000 miles, needed a new engine, 3,000 miles later, a transmision, and then at 66,000 miles the transmision again! The freind with the Acura, 98,000 miles and the motor, transmission and entire front end, laying on the Long Island Expressway, in pieces, car was a total loss, and my friend spent 2 weeks in the hospital! Talk about getting it up the ash!!!!!! A 2003 Nissan Exterra, so far 2 engines and a rear-end! But I got 378,000 miles out of my Dodge Shadow, and the only thing I ever had to do to it was basic maintenance. 250,000 miles on my 1980 Chevy Citation, only thing that I ever replaced, besides scheduled maintenance, the fuel pump! My 1974 Chevy Vega, put 310,000 miles on it, then the odometer broke, and I drove it another year and a half, just basic maintenance, and then the motor finally blew up, while beating the crap out of it!! And one last note, my nieghbor, has a 1982 Plymouth Aries K, 980,000 miles and runs like a top, looks brand new, and was able to traverse the 20" inches of snow over the past weekend without a hitch!! I believe that you just have a negative outlook towards the US auto manufacturers, and no one is going to change your mind, and thats cool, but don't knock things based upon hearsay, its not admissable in a court of law, and shouldn't be allowed on this forum. I have many, many more longevity stories involving US made cars, and imports too, its just it would take a book to list them all, and I could write a book about the nightmares of Toyota's, Volvo's Acura's, Nissan's, BMW's, and Mercedes, just like your portraing(sp), but this thread would become so lengthy, no one would read it!

LubeDude · Dec 10, 2003

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Kenny, Bet your Vega had a 327 in it! Kidding, How did you ever get that engine to go that far??? did they fix the problem with those engines in the later years? Way back then I saved all the articals in Hot Rod Magazine that had the 327 engine swap information for the Vega! Always wanted to do it but never did it! The other day I was ratting around in my parents atic and found the scrap book I put together! Ended up buying a 68 Corvette bigblock when I came home on leave from the service! Wish I still had that one!!

LubeDude

KennyKenCan · Dec 10, 2003

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LubeDude, I really never had any problems with that engine. And I beat the crap out of that car. I used to race it out at the old Bridgehampton Race Curcuit, former home of FIA Formula 1 U.S. Gran Prix! That car just kept going. After I finally blew it up, I put in the Racer Jack Performance Vega Engine, and I couldn't keep that thing together, so I installed a 231 Buick V-6, with 4bbl carb, headers, cam, the works, with the Vega GT 4 speed tranny. I could blow away them 327 ci and 350 ci powered Vegas easily! Just had a hard time keeping those Vega rear ends under it though. Use to buy them at the junkie, 6 at a time! But there was this one guy who crammed a 454 ci in a wagon, and I had a hard time beating him, but I did on occasion.

SoulWinner · Dec 10, 2003

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Right on Kenney. I wish that I'd had the good service from domestic vehicles that you site.

JasonJ · Dec 10, 2003

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Knightgang, While I can see that having multiple children and towed items would justify a single vehicle that can accomplish that, you have to admit that the shear amount of fullsized SUVs on the road are owned by people who do not need them (my better half is the prime example, she has a Jeep Grand Cherokee and fully admits she would be just fine with a Subaru). They tow nothing, and the fact that a person has children means nothing. A wagon or a van/minivan gets the job done better, but they are not as "cool" as the SUVs. That is, after all, what it boils down to. remember when Minivans were the shiznit? Everybody had one. I had single buddies with no family whatsoever that had a minivan. Once the SUV became popular with the soccermom set, it was all over with. Kennykencan, the only requirement for a Made In The USA product to wear that badge is that it was completed in the USA. That means all those US Tvs and stereos full of Asian electronics were assembled and shipped in the USA. American bicycles are made in China and painted in the US, and they say "Made in the USA". The Harley Davidson Evolution engine, while made in the USA, has Honda to thank for its superior performance and reliability over its predecessors. There isn't even such a thing as a product that is 100 percent made in the USA. Everything from cars to aircraft to coffee makers consist of parts that are made all over the world. It is a global economy whether we like it or not, so I would not feel bad at all for buying a foreign car. Besides, I drive a Ford F150 that was built in Canada and my better half has a Jeep Grand Cherokee Limited that I think was also made in Canada. Where does it stop? The new Corvette looks good, probably runs and performs great, and is an enormous value. You get a lot for the buck. In the end, it doesn't do it for me, and after all, I won't do or buy anything that doesn't "do it" for me....

FLATHEAD · Dec 10, 2003

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Jason what do you base this claim on,, quote" The Harley Davidson Evolution engine, while made in the USA, has Honda to thank for its superior performance and reliability over its predecessors" Is Honda now in the business of making a push rod aircooled twin? None that I ever knew of. Please state some facts to back up this claim. Now if you would have said porsche had something to do with the evo engine development you would be right.

neumanns · Dec 10, 2003

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Does it come standard with a towing package?

Kenny...since when is hearsay not allowed here. Sorry just couldn't let that one slide.

JasonJ · Dec 11, 2003

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Flathead, I can't give you hard data, I can just say that all my buddies that own older Harleys all have said that there was a Honda influence to the Evo motor. They never said Honda makes the motor, but that there was some design influence for the sake of longevity and reliability. It could have been something as simple as manufacturing guidance or a redesign that was implemented by Harley, but they did not create that engine on their own. I know I saw something to that effect on one of those TLC specials about H-D as well. The Evo motor sticks with the pushrod design not because it is a great design, but because it is tradition. That motor is a direct throwback to the original V-twin made by Harley-Davidson. That is the whole appeal of the Harleys is that they stick to the American tradition. If it wasn't for that, don't you think they would have went to overhead cams and all that? Lets face it, the asian Harley knock-off bikes run better, last longer, are more safe, but they are not Harleys. If I was in the market for that type of bike, I too would get a Harley, because its a Harley. What self respecting Harley owner would want to ever accept that their Evo motor may have been influenced by the Asians? Harley-Davidson went through a lot of hard times, especially during the horrible AMF ownership period, but once they got their act together, and got the help they needed to make the engines more reliable, they became a much better company. Heck, now you can build a complete bike from a catalog, from engine to fenders, and not a single bit of it is Harley-Davidson, but it sure looks like one.... I don't even want to get into some pointless arguement over it. If I, and everyone I have known over the years is wrong, I am cool with that. Heresay and word of mouth can be voiced, people need to get over this "I want hard data" kick. If ya don't wanna hear it, don't listen to it.... I do know H-D didn't do it alone, its just a matter of knowing who really bailed their butts out of their poor design nightmare and helped them to become the good company they are today...Peace

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KennyKenCan · Dec 12, 2003

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JasonJ, Yeah, Harley-Davidson had help with the Evo motor, from the Ford Motor Company!!!! Look it up sometime, instead of making conclusions, in your head!

JasonJ · Dec 12, 2003

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See, instead of correcting someones miss-information in an intelligent and polite way, you have to just slam a person down. You should try this technique: "I believe the information you have is incorrect. From what I understand it was Ford Motor Company that assisted in the development of the Evolution motor." I could give a rip who help who make what, I was just stating something I have heard for years from different sources. If they were wrong, then they caused me to be wrong, and I am fine with that. I like to learn new things every day, and this is something new that I can say I learned (although I will research it further, you have given me no real reason to believe you), but at the same time, you could try a little more of a constructive way to let someone know they may be wrong. No one took a squat and decreed you lord and master of all information, you are no more a credible source of information than anyone else here, so lets try to remember that when you step upon your pedestal. If I am coming off a bit brisk, it is only because we need to remember that we know nothing about who all is posting on here. We tend to presume a bit too much too often and forget to at least try to give a little respect and credit to those who choose to socialize on this format. Arguement is over, so lets not turn this into more than it needs to be. PEACE....

FLATHEAD · Dec 12, 2003

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Lighten up Jason. I told ya before Honda had nothing to do with HD but you seemed to not want to take that advise. Then you give a long drawn out post about how you know you are right. Then when Kenny calls you on it again you get kinda funny

Maybe you are thinking of the "revolution" engine that Harley makes. It is in the V-rod line of Harley's. You are right it is a pointless argument, I wont even bore you with the details of the EVO engine. You know your boats as good as anybody here Jason and I have benefited from your post.,, Stick to boats

Peace Flathead

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