New here with usual newbie questions and ideas

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Been a member of several forums, now here. Before I ask any questions, just want to say I always search before placing any questions. I have worked on all kinds of engines, ported many 2 strokes (about 60/40 on results) and 4strokes. But I see that outboards are kinda an animal of its own. I rebuildt a Merc 40hp that the crank broke at the flywheel junction. Worked well 3 years after but never found out why it broke. Anyway, I have now a 18ft canoe with outrigger and f2.5 yamaha to power it. Never had more fun than with this conoe. I have several questions and I guess here is the place to ask them. The motor is new and I have broke it in real nice and use synthetic oil now. It is a splash lube system and I use synthetic oil so it splashes well when cold and doesn't get too thin when hot. Is this the correct thinking? I use the boat about everyday for an hour or so. The owners manual says 100 hours on oil changes. Yea, right. I change at 25 hours and use a tinytac like rpm/hour meter. I also use a dab of 2cycle oil in the gas for valve guide, valve seat and top ring lube. What is this seafoam stuff? I have read about it here and it seems like I should use it once per year? It is a new thing to me. I always have jetted my 2strokes to "4stroke" whan not loaded but clears when a load is applied. Does it apply to outboards? I do this even for my weedeater. I have indexed drills down to .004in and use these to drill out pilot and main jets. Yes, I have had to slug then with lead and redrill smaller after going too far. In fact I had to open up the pilot jet on this f2.5 as the low speed operation was eratic. Then I found the air screw adjustment after this operation...the screw wasn't shown on my CDservice manual. But it runs excellent now. Enough for now, will probably have some completly wrong things to say at one time or another. Just don't scold me too hard!
 

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tashasdaddy

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Re: New here with usual newbie questions and ideas

google seafoam. go to there site, good info. they make fuel stabilizer, and decarb stuff, to mention just a few. good stuff for most engines.
 

Plainsman

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Re: New here with usual newbie questions and ideas

Welcome to iboats!

I use a can of seafoam everytime I fill the tank (17 gal). I have sprayed deep creep into the carbs and cylinders. IT's cleaning her out, but my motor is 30 years old (new to me).
 

Paul Moir

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Re: New here with usual newbie questions and ideas

You won't find any power fiddling with the main jet on an outboard. Unless it was jetted for high altitude running.

Outboards are normally not set up to take revving in neutral well. They expect a load. I don't know for sure about your Yamaha but best to avoid it if possible. Set the idle mix for the best idling when warmed up then just a bit richer. If it lean-hesitates when you throttle up then crack it open a bit more (or closed in the case of an air jet).

Some of the older, 70s era "402" 40hp mercs had famously weak crankshafts.
 

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Re: New here with usual newbie questions and ideas

Paul said:
You won't find any power fiddling with the main jet on an outboard. Unless it was jetted for high altitude running.

Outboards are normally not set up to take revving in neutral well. They expect a load. I don't know for sure about your Yamaha but best to avoid it if possible. Set the idle mix for the best idling when warmed up then just a bit richer. If it lean-hesitates when you throttle up then crack it open a bit more (or closed in the case of an air jet).

Some of the older, 70s era "402" 40hp mercs had famously weak crankshafts.
I left the main alone, just low speed was too lean up to 1/8 throttle. I would have just turned in the air screw but the stupid CD service manual doesn't show it but it is on the web site manual. I would have just adjusted the screw...The plug for the screw is now gone.
When I set up my pwc's I jetted so when it caught air it would 4stroke, like a rev limiter. When the load was restablished it would clear instantly and run rich enough to keep from burning up. I had a 20hp johnson that I opened up the restricted opening on the intake manifold to the full carb size and rejetted it like that. If the prop caught air from cavatating or debris it would 4stroke and not rev past what I would consider good. I don't mind redlining my weedeater or PWC but to rev an unloaded outboard motor hurts my head:'(
 
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