New Tach no reading

mesajeeper

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I recently purchased a new Tach for my 1979 Johnson 115 hp (115ML79R). We also purchased a new harness that plugs in in the from of the throttle control box and runs to the tach containing a purple (hot when ignition key is on), a black (gound) and a Gray (pulse) wire. I confirmed the purple wire gets 12 volts when the key is turned. The shop i bought the tach from suggested maybe the new tach was bad, so they exchanged it for me. Still no reading. I need to test the gray pulse wire but I don't know how. I have a multimeter altough I am not real skilled at using it. Can someone give me direction on how to test this? My research on Iboats suggests that maybe my rectifier is bad? Is there a way to test this? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Also, as clarification, the mechanic where I bought the tach set it at 6p.

Thanks, Curt
 

Bosunsmate

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Re: New Tach no reading

Yep it could be your rectifier.
Is your battery charging ok?
There is a test with a multimeter, ive forgotten how to do it. If you search this site it will definitely come up as ive seen it written a lot.
Its just using the resistance reading on the multimeter to check that current flows through each of the rectifier wires one way through the diodes but not the other, checking all the yellow wires and red in a specific order.
 

boobie

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Re: New Tach no reading

Try cdielectronics.com for test procedures. Could be bad rectifier or stator.
 

Joe Reeves

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Re: New Tach no reading

(Small Rectifier Description & Location)
(J. Reeves)

On most 2,3,4,6 cylinder engines, the small rectifier is located on the starboard (right) side of the engine just in front of the engines electrical wiring strip. There are a few older V4 engines that have the wiring strip on the rear portion of the engine and the rectifier would be located just under that terminal strip. The smaller horsepower engines usually have the rectifier located on the starboard side of the powerhead close to the carburetor area.

The rectifier appears to be a round object approximately one inch (1") in diameter and also about one inch (1") high. The base of it is sort of triangular in appearance and is attached to the engine with two (2) screws/bolts..... usually one screw/bolt is larger than the other. The rectifier, depending on which one your engine uses, will have either:

One Red wire, one Yellow wire, and one Yellow/Gray wire, or One Red wire, and two Yellow wires.

Note that either of the above rectifiers could have a fourth wire which would be Yellow/Blue

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(Small Rectifier Test)
(J. Reeves)

Remove the rectifier wires from the terminal block. Using a ohm meter, connect the black lead of the ohm meter to the rectifier base (ground), then one by one, connect the red lead of the ohm meter to the yellow, yellow/gray, then the red wire (some rectifiers may also have a fourth yellow/blue wire. If so connect to that also). Now, reverse the ohm meter leads and check those same wires again. You should get a reading in one direction, and none at all in the other direction.

Now, connect the black lead of the ohm meter to the red wire. One by one, connect the red lead of the ohm meter to the yellow, yellow/gray, and if present, the yellow/blue wire. Then reverse the leads, checking the wires again. Once more, you should get a reading in one direction and none in the other.

Note that the reading obtained from the red rectifier wire will be lower then what is obtained from the other wires.

Any deviation from the "Reading", "No Reading" as above indicates a faulty rectifier. Note that a rectifier will not tolerate reverse polarity. Simply touching the battery with the cables in the reverse order or hooking up a battery charger backwards will blow the diodes in the rectifier assy immediately.

If the above corrects your problem (new rectifier if needed), fine. If not, check the gray wire as noted below.

Find the gray wire which is attached to the yellow/gray or plain yellow wire at the engine wiring strip terminal. Temporarily disconnect it and check to make sure that there is continuity from the engine end to the tach end.
 

emdsapmgr

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Re: New Tach no reading

If, after testing per J. Reeve's method, you still get no tach signal, you may need to run a new tach wire from the engine to the control box-or direct to the tach. I had to do this on a 79 200 hp engine. The tach wire developed an "open" in the wire somewhere.
 

mesajeeper

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Re: New Tach no reading

Thanks all for the advice. I will test the rectifier this week and will report back. As for the stator, since the engine runs great and I presume has spark on all cylinders does this mean the stator is fine?
 

boobie

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Re: New Tach no reading

Part of the stator is for the ignition system and the other is for battery charging, Separate systems.
 

mesajeeper

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Re: New Tach no reading

The rectifier tested bad. I replaced the rectifier and the tach now works! I also checked that the batteries were not charging before the fix and now they are. Thanks everyone for the help. A special thanks to Joe for the rectifier testing procedure in simple terms for us shadetree mechanics.
 

Joe Reeves

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Re: New Tach no reading

The rectifier tested bad. A special thanks to Joe for the rectifier testing procedure in simple terms for us shadetree mechanics.

You're quite welcome... Now, whereinthehell do I send this bill? :)
 
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