new to me tilt and trim

Jiggz

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Well, without any load both cylinders will try to move at the same time and even worse is the tilt will move faster as it has a smaller cylinder albeit taller. However, if installed in the engine mount, the trim will move first because it has larger cylinder area thus exerts more force than the smaller cylinder area of the tilt cylinder. Both cylinders are on common hydraulic circuits.
 

HotTommy

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Jiggz decribed it well. But as hydraulic systems are not intuitively obvious to everyone, I'll say it in a different way. The hydraulic pump pushes fluid under pressure to both the trim and tilt cylinders at the same time. The tilt cylinder is smaller in diameter but taller. The smaller diameter means it pushes with less force, but it also moves farther when a given amount of fluid is pumped into it. This is what you want when you are raising the engine while sitting still. ... The trim cylinder has to have a larger diameter so the same amount of fluid pressure will generate enough force to hold in engine in its trimmed position while underway with the propeller trying to push the bottom of the engine forward. As it doesn't have to move the engine through as large a range of motion as the tilt, the trim cylinder is shorter. ... So, as Jiggz said, when there is no significant force resisting either, the tilt cylinder will move more quickly than the trim.
 

tommarvin

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Without a load on the trim and tilt if the trim and tilt move at all or together like the video, then it is functioning properly ? You can test it without a load,
 

Jiggz

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The only caveat when testing without a load is you cannot tell if the valve body is leaking by or not since there is no load to push back on the hydraulic pressure. And yes, as for operational test without load at least you can tell the pump is pumping and the cylinders are moving but not if the valve body is leaking by or not.
 

jerryjerry05

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Sounded like there was air in the line?
Maybe low on oil or the u​nit was laying on it's side?
It looked like it was in good shape and worth the effort to install.
If the pump is defective they can be bought for as low as $69.
Some rebuild them?
Once there is a load? and it drifts down there are tests in the manual for checking if it's the pump or the rams???
 

Simple_Man

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Thanks Guys!!!!! I just wanted to make sure that was normal with no load. no sense installing if it was broke. now to install and check for leak down.
 

Jiggz

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With no load testing at least now you know the pump and motors are working accordingly.
 
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