newbie just purchased my first boat. 93 chris craft 197 5.0

drafter93

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hello everyone. i just drove 600 miles to pick up my first boat. its a 1993 chris craft 197 5.0 with 300hrs. it was winterized last year but the guy i bought it from couldnt get it started. i dont know much about boats and i have a bunch of questions. i cant find a spec sheet for this boat. anyone else out there have a boat like this?
 

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Re: newbie just purchased my first boat. 93 chris craft 197 5.0

I don't but I have a few questions for you....

Where are you?

Did the motor turn over?

Are you mechanically inclined?

What exactly were you thinking not knowing much about boats then driving 600 miles to purchase a boat and then purchasing the boat the owner could not get running? Look I'm not trying to bust your stones here but this could turn out very bad for you, I believe the motor and drive are OMC who is no longer in business and parts are getting tough to come by, the Hull manufacturer is a well known quality brand but the age could be a huge issue for you.

Best bet is to get after it, get it running and start checking the normal things, sole and stringers, transom etc. can you get some pictures up soon? We can talk you through mostly anything......mostly but pictures will give us an idea of the overall condition of the boat and what specifically to look for in this boats case, after that were just hoping for the best
 

ezmobee

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Re: newbie just purchased my first boat. 93 chris craft 197 5.0

i dont know much about boats

That's going to prove to be very expensive.

Look I'm not trying to bust your stones here but this could turn out very bad for you, I believe the motor and drive are OMC who is no longer in business and parts are getting tough to come by, the Hull manufacturer is a well known quality brand but the age could be a huge issue for you.

And this is why.

:eek:

We are here to help though. Your best bet to get her running is to post in the I/O repair forum with the brand and model of your engine/drive. Good luck.
 

ryanr623

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Re: newbie just purchased my first boat. 93 chris craft 197 5.0

Pics will help. How much did you pay?
 

Texas Parrothead

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Re: newbie just purchased my first boat. 93 chris craft 197 5.0

Just wanted to say welcome to the forums!

You just tapped into a great wealth of knowledge and experience with all the guys here!

Good luck and I hope is all turns out well!
 

drafter93

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Re: newbie just purchased my first boat. 93 chris craft 197 5.0

thank you guys for responding to my thread. i can tell i'm going to like this forum. everyone is very helpful. let me start by giving u guys a little background. i live in pittsburgh pa. i paid $2900 for the boat. i am mechanically inclined but my experience has been mostly with things that have 4 wheels. i built a 10 second 1993 mustang in my garage at home, so i am familiar with ford v8's. thats what attracted me to this boat. i do realize that boat motors are different than car motors but the basics are similar. the hull is solid and it has a nice galvanized trailer. unfortunately, my garage is full of mustangs so the boat is in the driveway. which means i can only work on it in nice weather. the gas is over a year old, so the first thing i am going to do is drain the tank and add fresh fuel. next, i wanna change the oil so that when (or if) it does start, it has nice clean oil to circulate up to the heads. is mobil 1 sae30 full synthetic ok? should i just buy one of those pumps that sucks the gas out of the dipstick tube? i turned the motor over by hand and it was fine. the weather is bad here so i wont be able to work on it for a few days. i'll post pics as soon as i figure out how to, lol. wish me luck!! thanks - brian
 

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Re: newbie just purchased my first boat. 93 chris craft 197 5.0

i'll post better pics when the weather is better...
drafter93
 

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Re: newbie just purchased my first boat. 93 chris craft 197 5.0

Cool your a motor guy, the problem isn't the motor though its the outdrive, Personally I think if your a mustang guy(and this is no slight against mustangs) but your probably well tuned to finding used parts so thats what I would do find another used outdrive for a parts donor. I know there are some parts that can still be had but I am unfamiliar with what those parts are specifically. if your happy with the rest of the boat then its a done deal and you need to get some pics up or we hunt you down!!

Congratulations!!
 

drafter93

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Re: newbie just purchased my first boat. 93 chris craft 197 5.0

yeah, your right. i dont know anything about outdrives!! i'll start looking for a used outdrive. i finally posted pics above. btw, i've never really been a mustang fan but they are cheap to build. there are not many ford parts on my car. i only buy aftermarket. i would like to do the same thing with this boat. is there a good place to buy aftermarket parts? i'd rather pay twice as much for something and never have to replace it again. thanks for the advice
 

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Wow- OMC and Ford in one shot. If anyone can help, the guys in the I/O forum can. As for aftermarket parts, well, most of what you'll normally need is marine specific. Finding them all for that combo may be problematic.

You MIGHT want to consider getting it running, then turning around and selling it again. There's nothing inherently wrong with either a marinized Ford motor or an OMC outdrive. The problem is that neither company has been in the marine business for more than a decade. As in, no new manufactured parts, and technical support that's drying up. IMO you'll spend a lot of time on ebay looking for decent used parts.

My .02
 

oldfordcrap

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an outdrive will not prevent a motor from starting,but there are many built in electronic features that prevent ignition get it checked before you spend a fortune on an outdrive that you dont know if anything is wrong with by the way that is a great looking boat!!!!!!!
 

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Being a mechanic, or at least very mechanically inclined so to speak, you've got the motor end pretty much covered. Don't use any auto parts on that motor, though. Use only marine rated replacement parts. Auto parts tend to spark, as you are well aware. The inside of your motor compartment fills with gas fumes, which is why there is a blower/vent. Make sure you run the blower prior to starting the motor every time.

Walk around the deck of the boat (every square inch). Walk slowly, and put as much pressure as you can, everywhere you step. You need to check the deck for soft spots. Soft spots mean rot. Hopefully your deck is rock solid everywhere. The deck is also called the sole. There is no floor on a boat.;) The deck is supported by stringers. They are like ribs, supporting the deck. If your deck has one or more soft spots, chances are, the stringers are also rotting. Rot generally starts from the bottom, and works its way up. Check the transom for soft spots. These are the three areas most prone to rot: deck, stringers, and transom.

I'm not trying to scare you, or get you worried over something that may very well be nothing. These are things to be checked prior to purchase. You didn't know, and we're going to get you through any obstacles which come across your path.

Let us know what you find when you check the deck and transom. We'll go from there. Please post some more pics. You've got yourself a beautiful boat.:) Show us close-ups of the outdrive, motor, and the whole inside of the boat.

Take a boater safety course. You'll be really glad you did, shortly after it begins. You'll be amazed at how much you didn't have a clue about. A lot of the things you'll learn will keep you alive, and from hurting others. You're going to need a lot of safety equipment which you may be completely unaware of...

Keep us posted. Enjoy!!!:D:D:D
 

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Well for one sorry to hear about the Fords in your garage and also that you found this forum after you bought that rig which by the way looks great! possibly look for a donor boat with a merc out drive and the more current GM power plant so parts availability is more readily available. Everything mentioned above is very sound advice but if you plan on getting her seaworthy for this season without changing the outdrive and power get the factory service manuals if you can find them and go by the book but for now head to the I/O forum more help there than you'll be able to handle just post up the serial numbers, displacement and make of your drive and motor. Good luck
 

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Re: newbie just purchased my first boat. 93 chris craft 197 5.0

wow, thanks guys!! lots of good info for me to take in. i'm trying to absorb all of this. it seams like everyone is pro chevy and anti ford. maybe i should swap out my omc drivetrain for merc? we also have a c2 corvette with a 383 stroker so i feel comfortable with chevy mouse motors. or maybe i'll sell this boat and get something with merc drivetrain. but i am confused about the boat structure. why should i check my floor for rot? isn't my floor fiberglass? oh boy, i must be really confused. now i am nervous. is there wood under the fiberglass and gelcoat? i thought it was solid fiberglass. i also looked in the engine compartment ans checked the stringers and they are also fiberglass. or am i confused again, are they wood wrapped in glass? i also finished the first half of the safety course today. thanks everyone!!! i really appreciate all the help
 

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I don't think that switching from OMC to Merc is possible without some pretty serious transom work. I am a Ford guy (but a lifelong Earnhardt fan so go figure) but Ford abandoned the marine market so IMO they deserve the beating, There are two types of drivetrain manufacturers since Ford left in your type of boat Mercruiser and Volvo, both are chevy motors, the main difference being the outdrives, then your in a Ford versus Chevy debate, they are both excellent drives but each has their pro's and con's
 

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I thought "YEAH!!! another Ford man, with Fox bodies in his garage (like me), and a Ford / OMC set up"...then you said you were not *really* a Mustang fan......ooohhhhhh
Then you said none have any stock parts.........well, maybe ok, as long as you didnt put a GM engine in a Fox body...that would be blasphemy
The Jury is still out on you then in my book ;)

BUT...Welcome anyway. If you had not bought the boat, you would have gotten a million curses against buying it from many on here, right or wrong, and they have some valid points. Since you already bought it, dont get all nervous. Parts are still plentiful, and really not any more expensive than any others...for the most part. As long as it is not rotten under the deck, you would be well served to just fix it, and boat it for a year or two, learn what you do and dont want in the next one, and then sell her and buy another with your ideal features. You didnt screw up, and you will be fine.
 

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I don't think that switching from OMC to Merc is possible without some pretty serious transom work. I am a Ford guy (but a lifelong Earnhardt fan so go figure) but Ford abandoned the marine market so IMO they deserve the beating, There are two types of drivetrain manufacturers since Ford left in your type of boat Mercruiser and Volvo, both are chevy motors, the main difference being the outdrives, then your in a Ford versus Chevy debate, they are both excellent drives but each has their pro's and con's

Yes you can switch from OMC Cobra to Merc, and you can also adapt OMC Cobra to a merc with the SEI adapter. Just not the King Cobra.

Here is DonS's cutout template to show you.
 

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Infidel is right you didn't screw up..........maybe not a move for those considered sane though:D

Great find Infidel, all we need to find out is if this outdrive is a king cobra now, but if it runs drive it like you stole it right!!
 

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wow, thanks guys!! lots of good info for me to take in. i'm trying to absorb all of this. it seams like everyone is pro chevy and anti ford. maybe i should swap out my omc drivetrain for merc? we also have a c2 corvette with a 383 stroker so i feel comfortable with chevy mouse motors. or maybe i'll sell this boat and get something with merc drivetrain. but i am confused about the boat structure. why should i check my floor for rot? isn't my floor fiberglass? oh boy, i must be really confused. now i am nervous. is there wood under the fiberglass and gelcoat? i thought it was solid fiberglass. i also looked in the engine compartment ans checked the stringers and they are also fiberglass. or am i confused again, are they wood wrapped in glass? i also finished the first half of the safety course today. thanks everyone!!! i really appreciate all the help

Yes there is wood under the sole(deck/floor) of the boat, think of your roof, under your roof are trusses, in a boat the hull is supported by stringers which are similar to the trusses for your roof only they run the length of the boat, as boats have gotten newer the manufacturers have learned lessons in building the stringers to last longer, unfortunately in your case they had not learned yet, thats why we always say how the boat was cared for over its lifetime is far and away more important then the manufacturer, a boat that has been cared for properly can last for decades while a high end boat that has been miscared for will last far less, Just like cars as I'm sure you know, the major difference being there's no wood in cars!

Please see this thread for a very good example with video on the rebuilding of a boat with bad stringers, I understand this may not be your situation but it is an excellent example of how boats have a love hate relationship with water, its not finished yet either so be sure to check in on it often
http://forums.iboats.com/showthread.php?t=454460
Sorry for the delay Daughter doesn't understand dad is busy!!
 

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Re: newbie just purchased my first boat. 93 chris craft 197 5.0

wow, thanks guys!! lots of good info for me to take in. i'm trying to absorb all of this. it seams like everyone is pro chevy and anti ford. maybe i should swap out my omc drivetrain for merc? we also have a c2 corvette with a 383 stroker so i feel comfortable with chevy mouse motors. or maybe i'll sell this boat and get something with merc drivetrain. but i am confused about the boat structure. why should i check my floor for rot? isn't my floor fiberglass? oh boy, i must be really confused. now i am nervous. is there wood under the fiberglass and gelcoat? i thought it was solid fiberglass. i also looked in the engine compartment ans checked the stringers and they are also fiberglass. or am i confused again, are they wood wrapped in glass? i also finished the first half of the safety course today. thanks everyone!!! i really appreciate all the help

Your deck is fiberglass... over wood. Your stringers are fiberglass... over wood. You are not confused, you hit the nail on the head... Wood wrapped in fiberglass. Some new boats are now being made without wood. They utilize all composite materials.

Check the deck, stringers, and transom the way I suggested in my previous post. If you find any soft spots, it can be taken care of. If you find any questionable stringers, probe with an ice-pick or a screwdriver. If they are solid, no worries. If they are soft, that's rot.

Again, you've got a beautiful boat. Any problems you run into can be solved. We are all here to help each other; and the comradery on this site is outstanding.

Are you taking a classroom boater safety course, or online? Either way, what do you think so far?

Welcome to the family we call iboats!!!
 
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