NHRA now 1000 feet

Scaaty

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In interim measure, Top Fuel, Funny Car to race 1,000.
As the investigation continues into the tragic accident that took the life of driver Scott Kalitta, NHRA has announced that beginning at the Mopar Mile High Nationals in Denver, Colo., both the Top Fuel and Funny Car classes will race to 1,000 feet instead of the traditional 1,320 feet or one-quarter mile. This is an interim step that is being taken while NHRA continues to analyze and determine whether changes should be made to build upon the sport's long standing safety record, given the inherent risks and ever-present dangers associated with the sport.
This interim change was made by NHRA in collaboration with professional race teams. NHRA believes that racing the Top Fuel and Funny Car classes to 1,000 feet will allow NHRA and the racing community time to evaluate, analyze and implement potential changes based on the safety initiatives outlined last week.
With the change, fans will still be able to enjoy the sights, sounds and thrill of NHRA nitro racing with speeds around 300 mph and quick elapsed times to 1,000 feet.
Over the years, NHRA has implemented many initiatives to enhance safety including measures to limit speeds from increasing, personal protective gear, vehicle improvements, and track enhancements such as sand traps, catch nets and concrete barriers the entire length of the drag strip.
In the wake of the tragic series of events that took Kalitta's life, the following technical issues are currently under investigation: 1) what might be done to reduce engine failures; 2) parachute mounting techniques and materials as well as identifying a parachute material that could be more fire resistant; 3) exploring whether there is a way to increase brake efficiency when cars lose downforce due to the loss of the body; 4) analyzing additional methods that might be developed at the top end of the race track to help arrest runaway vehicles; 5) considering whether current speeds should be further limited or reduced to potentially improve safety.
?The board members of the Professional Racers Owners Organization (PRO) wholeheartedly and unanimously support this decision,? said its president Kenny Bernstein. ?We want to thank NHRA for listening to our input and suggestions to incorporate these changes. It is not lost on any of us that this constitutes a change in our history of running a quarter-mile, but it's the most immediate adjustment we can make in the interest of safety which is foremost on everyone's mind. This may be a temporary change and we recognize it is not the total answer. We will continue to work hand in hand with NHRA to evaluate other methods of making Top Fuel and Funny Car competition safer so that we might return to our quarter-mile racing standard. We also want to thank Connie Kalitta for his invaluable input. He has been a rock through these difficult times.?
 

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Re: NHRA now 1000 feet

Yep, came out a couple days ago.
320 feet shorter and I know a few would have liked to have had that 320 feet at times.
The times will be down a little and the speeds will be down from 330 to 300 but will still be a good show for the folks.
 

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Fix the cars and let em race the quarter mile. Fix the track with a special runoff area.

These guys know the risks, let em race the real deal.
 

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Things happen. They have happened since the NHRA was born by Mr. Parks.
The speeds have gotten faster and faster as the years have went by.
Way back, 250MPH was flying in a dragster, now they are approaching 340.
Blaine Johnson, Darrell Russell, Eric Medlen and now Scott Kalitta have paid the price of doing what they loved to do.
Almost lost John Force, the #1 guy in FC last year at Texas and he says that if it was not for the stuff they had done to their cars after the Medlin crash, he might not have made it.
Big bucks are spent making the cars safer and safer and it still is not enough cause things happen and they always will.
 

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The NHRA needs to be proactive on safety instead of reactive.

They only make changes after someone dies, and the changes are always good ideas, and it makes you wonder why it took someone to die for them to make those changes. They need to embrace some new technology that can save lives.

But changing the length of the track completly changes the sport. Gotta be a another way.

Ken
 

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And there will be. This is just until they figure out what they need to do.
It's not just NHRA, it's JFR, PRO, and a lot of other people knocking heads over this.
 

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Any motor sports racing has its risks. Risks that all drivers know that they are taking. No matter how safe things can be, there will always be something that will happen that is unsuspected.


I think they should think and study other alternatives than shorting the track. This idea to me is just going against the tradition of the quarter mile rush.
 

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I think they should think and study other alternatives than shorting the track. This idea to me is just going against the tradition of the quarter mile rush.
And they are.
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NHRA releases initial findings from tragedy at Englishtown;
announces initiatives moving forward
6/27/2008
While still conducting its investigation into the details of last week's tragic accident that took the life of driver Scott Kalitta, NHRA announced today some of its initial findings and subsequent steps being taken to continue its efforts to make the sport safer.
The loss of Scott Kalitta, a passionate champion driver and devoted family man, still weighs heavy on the hearts of everyone at NHRA, as we reflect on his many accomplishments and pass along our deepest condolences to his wife Kathy, his sons Corey and Colin, his father Connie, his cousin Doug, the entire Kalitta family and team, and all those he left behind.
It has been determined that a tragic series of events took place that fateful afternoon. An engine explosion near the end of the run resulted in separating most of the car's body from the chassis. The car's parachutes did not blossom, and the vehicle continued down the right side of the shut down area at a high rate of speed. It went off the top end of the track, up into the right catch net pole, and hit the television camera boom beyond the end of the sand trap before coming to a rest.
This sequence of events resulted in the passing of the two-time world champion and veteran second-generation driver.
The New Jersey State Police investigation team was on site the same day, working with NHRA officials as both conducted their investigation. Once it becomes available, NHRA will analyze the State Police report for any additional information on the incident. NHRA also continued its own investigation by bringing mechanical engineer and accident reconstruction expert David McCandless, M.S. M.E., P.E., to the site. McCandless is an independent engineer with more than 15 years of experience in reconstructing vehicular accidents. McCandless worked with NHRA officials, members of the Kalitta race team, and officers from the New Jersey State Police accident investigation team on site. McCandless examined and analyzed the vehicle, the track and other data, and his investigation is still underway. The Delphi technical team and Ford recovered and are analyzing the ?Blue Box? data recorder data and NHRA is using this data and analysis in its investigation.
After its preliminary investigation, NHRA identified several areas to analyze and determine whether changes should be made to build upon the sport's long standing safety record, given the inherent risks and ever-present dangers associated with race cars traveling a quarter mile at more than 300 mph.
Technical Issues to be Investigated

Engine failure. NHRA, working with the Kalitta race team, has examined the engine, and will work with the Kalitta team and other teams to analyze what might be done to reduce such incidents in the future.


Parachute materials. Since the parachutes did not blossom, NHRA will work with parachute manufacturers and suppliers and SFI to analyze parachute mounting techniques and materials. Even though fire does not appear to have prevented the chutes from blossoming in this situation, NHRA also will work with manufacturers and suppliers to identify a parachute material that could be more fire resistant.


Brakes. Research will be conducted to explore whether there is a way to increase brake efficiency when cars lose downforce due to the loss of the body.

Shutdown Area. In light of this tragic incident, NHRA is looking into the shutdown area. NHRA has requested data from FIA regarding design and make-up of runoff areas in other forms of motorsports to see if it has any useful application to the unique forces in drag racing. Together with the racing community and outside groups, NHRA will research and analyze catch nets and restraint devices that are used in other applications, including military applications. In addition, NHRA will analyze additional methods that might be developed at the top end of the race track to help arrest runaway vehicles, given the speed, mass and other factors synonymous with NHRA drag racing.
Speed. NHRA has implemented many initiatives to enhance safety including measures to keep speeds from increasing, personal protective gear, vehicle improvements, and track enhancements such as sand traps, catch nets and concrete barriers the entire length of the drag strip. NHRA is considering whether current speeds should be further limited or reduced to potentially improve safety. To analyze this issue NHRA will develop a task force that also includes members of the racing community to evaluate how to reduce the speed of Top Fuel and Funny Car vehicles. NHRA will continue to seek and welcome input from race teams on these and other issues in the coming weeks and months ahead. NHRA will release additional information from its ongoing investigation as it becomes available, as well as provide updates on the recently announced initiatives.
 

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Re: NHRA now 1000 feet

Shut down areas have been a issue for many years.
Between sand pits and catch fences you could see the writing on the wall.
Opening a fence to a public street when the fuel cars run is NOT the way to further enhance and protect the sport.
I've said all along the length of the shut down area should be equal to the ability of the brakes on the vehicle (without chutes) to get slowed down.
Yeup it would close some of the tracks or require more land purchased or not have the fuel cars run there anymore.
I also have said a arresting hook system ( like carrier landings) at the end of track would be viable addition to the cars.

I'm sure some of the options they are going to look at Are
#1 the reduction of nitro
#2 reduction of engine size
#3 reduction of blower speed
#4 vehicle weight
#5 Self deploying emergency chutes.

There going to have to do something.
Time to step up and get these rockets stopped..

OH at 1320 feet.
 

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Re: NHRA now 1000 feet

Everything Bad, happens after a thousand feet!
 

Scaaty

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Re: NHRA now 1000 feet

Lets think here a bit.
My first race was at 15 years old, 1964, 1957 650 Triumph bike..screw some D/L...(got it at 16)..rode it to Oswego Dragway. way west ChiTown Illinois. First trip, was 1st place..99 mph at 13.99, and just a dumb (or better than I thought?) kid (now 58)
That said for a reference of me, and NHRA...(mostly now is the "All HD drags" And still have my old (1990 started) homemade (frame up) Sportster, 1972 Ironhead motor. Just on race gas, but Nitrous is ready, but I will probably blow the cases apart, down tranny wise. Weak case near the speedo drive..made for 40hp, not 140 hp. Jack shafted to a 10 inch rear tire. Motor REALLY worked over. I probably have 4000 hours building it. Pix if ya want. What a grin on a punch, and the massive cam kicks in...barely idles. Plus own 7 other bikes.
Anyway. NHRA. I've known Force's old buddy, Austin Coil, long time. Raced the ChiTown Hustler..(yep, we are crazies from old days Midwest)
What is wasting people now is the speeds..simple. WHY you ask?
DOWN FORCE TO STOP. Ya blow a body off a Funny, and you have none. A good blow up will knock ya silly. And ya lose a rear wing a top fueler, zero control.
Tires can't keep up with the motor HP..(blow off, and shred the wing on TF) frames bending and breaking in half..(the Sarge.."the Shoe" ..last year).
The funnys are like a 4th July bottle rocketwithout the down force of the body. Brakes at 330mph. Get a grip. Changes have been made though, where ya blow a burst panel (first to go), the chutes go to. Smart move.
Drag Racing IS NOT SPEED! Its A to B. Think ET! Its having a quicker motor, same class and rules, and ya have a better think of engine build than the SOB next to you. Thats drag racing.
Ya want speed, go to Bonny, ya wants turns, hit a redneck event.
Ya want raw power, hit an 1/8th mile Fuel Harley event...front wheel never touches the ground...past that in feet..things get all out of whack, something goes south, ouch.
Pro Mods run on 60%nitro (rest Meth) a 1/8th. What a thrill, as the full load Nitro HD's. Who ever said knock down blower speeds, less Nitro, retard timing, has never been over 55mph in a cage. BS.
THATS whats has BEEN blowing the fuel motors. You were asking for something that only can be figured "seat time", and REAL TIME.
Aint a "Dyno" made that can handle a 8000 hp full load 100% Nitro.
Again its A to B. QUICKEST wins, not the fastest. And the brains to make a motor that blows off the dude next to ya.
Sorry, but thats called "drag racing". Full balls, strap in, and get the end "light"
Lenght don't matter. Size don't matter...just give me the "smell of Nitro in the morning...balls out, 1/8th, 1000, I don't care, just the old 1/4 mile is archaic, as its a little too long for HP made nowadays.
Love the T-Shirts they sell at the All Harley Drags.
"No Chute, No Cage, No Belts...JUST BALLS!
(with respect to the ladys here though...one here best time 240mph on the 1/4...front wheel sitting still at the traps...never hit the ground 'till a throttle back off..SIR...what a ride!)..plus a real "cutey!"..with guts...
 
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