No Ethanol

[Shadow66]

I am saying nothing here and removing this post because Bob from VT thought it was useless. I will of course comply with Him.

 

[Bob_VT]

Re: No Ethanol

Glad you are so happy..... you will not see any differance at all. FYI gasoline w/o ethanol should be cheaper since it is easier to manufacture........... many people here have learned to ignore the gimmicks that companies have used and the new additives.

Did you know that ethanol has been in gasoline for almost 20 years..... it just was made a marketing tool in the last 3 yrs........ similar to mountain grown coffee

 

[Shadow66]

Re: No Ethanol

Glad you are so happy..... you will not see any differance at all. FYI gasoline w/o ethanol should be cheaper since it is easier to manufacture........... many people here have learned to ignore the gimmicks that companies have used and the new additives.

Did you know that ethanol has been in gasoline for almost 20 years..... it just was made a marketing tool in the last 3 yrs........ similar to mountain grown coffee

Ya know Bob, why not give me some helpful advice instead of just knocking what I posted? I have not been around here for years like you may have (what's up with that anyway). I could use some advice or some references to these things that were discussed for years you speak of.

 

[Bob_VT]

Re: No Ethanol

I do not drink the kool aid, I do not use additives, I do not worry about e-10..... I do not race, do time trials....near impossible to see any loss. Same thing in my car, truck and suv. This subject has been discussed here for years and we do not allow the discussions.

We will not feed the rumors. This topic is best left alone or it will close.

 

[mhlbnghm]

Re: No Ethanol

Yeah, but other than all that......................

MB

 

[Shadow66]

Re: No Ethanol

I do not drink the kool aid, I do not use additives, I do not worry about e-10..... I do not race, do time trials....near impossible to see any loss. Same thing in my car, truck and suv. This subject has been discussed here for years and we do not allow the discussions.

We will not feed the rumors. This topic is best left alone or it will close.

If something has been discussed for years it should be banned. Like the Oil discussions (which funny enough are still being spoken about for many years and have not been closed).

I went back and did a search on this in detail. It seems that every discussion of Ethanol is ultimately put out to pasture somehow.

I found one though that creates some understanding. So Ethanol basically cleans the fuel system and loosens all that garbage in there.

So newer boats should not be affected (at least with the E10). Just more maintenance required and upkeep.

But what about the amount of time I can leave the fuel sit? 2/3/4 weeks? Does a stabilizer hault phase separation in fuel before it has started?

Listen, I was not meaning to offend. Fact is I would love to believe that Ethanol is no issue and I can happily go buy the cheaper E10 from any gas station and as long as I keep an eye on my filters I do not need any additives or any special stuff. Just keep the tank filled and use every few weeks?

Maybe I'm just gun shy since I went through so much grief with my boat being negelcted by the previous owner...only in the fuel which he kept halfway filled over winter.

 

[Home Cookin']

Re: No Ethanol

Bob there are 2 issues with the ethanol added to gasoline. One is, or isn't, effect on performance, and I surmise you believe that is a non-issue. Fine.

Ther other issue is how increased percentage of ethanol added to gasoline has adversely affected the maintenance side. Almost every other post in the engine repair forums has to do with fuel path issues caused by the increased ethanol. That is a legitimate topic for discussion. IMHO. I hope you don't plan to shut down those discussions?

 

[IVAZ]

Re: No Ethanol

I have never had a problem with ethanol gas. My boat is 21 years old and has never developed any issues (last fuel filters I replaced were clean). My 1967 Chevelle has the original tank and lines and has no issues either. I have owned the car for 12 years and my dad owned it 14 years before that, so there is a great chance the lines are truly original. We have had ethanol for a long time in the Houston area.
I think if gas sits unused for a period of time ethanol or not it will turn to crap regardless.

 

[anon1]

Re: No Ethanol

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Did you know that ethanol has been in gasoline for almost 20 years..... it just was made a marketing tool in the last 3 yrs........ similar to mountain grown coffee

Did you know that ethanol has been in gasoline for over 30 years, not less than 20 years?

 

[Silvertip]

Re: No Ethanol

Let me say this about using the term "increased maintenance" when using ethanol. 1) it is E-10 (and possibly E15 in some areas in the near future) which is 10% ethanol and 90% gasoline). 2) Pump Ethanol (E85) is 85% ethanol and 15% gasoline) and must not be used in a marine engine. 3) Do not blame ethanol blended fuel on increased maintenance. It may accelerate the need for fuel system maintenance IF the fuel system has been neglected or you have an engine built with non-ethanol tolerat gaskets and rubber parts. If the fuel system is so dirty and neglected that ethanol blended fuel cleaned it up, you were dealing with a looming issue anyway. The problem in these discussions is that we have way too many techs who can't even spell ethanol much less understand the concept but are quick to point to ethanol as the culprit because they have few actual diagnostic skills. Sorry to be so blunt but I too am getting sick of the finger pointing and amount snake oil being sold to combat what is essentially a non-issue. I agree, those with fiberglass (not plastic) fuel tanks have a problem with tank degradation and condensation issues in large fuel tanks. Since we in the midwest have used E10 since 1997 our boats get stored for six months of the year and provided stabil, sea foam or any other fuel system stabilizer is used our engine fire up just fine in the spring. We also store collector cars, construction equipment, farm equipment and those vehicles are likewise unaffected by long term storage.

 

[dkorzun21]

Re: No Ethanol

I do not drink the kool aid, I do not use additives, I do not worry about e-10..... I do not race, do time trials....near impossible to see any loss. Same thing in my car, truck and suv. This subject has been discussed here for years and we do not allow the discussions.

We will not feed the rumors. This topic is best left alone or it will close.

Isnt the point of a form to discuss topics and get advice???? Freedom of speach..... I thought this was gunna be a good topic till I say that it was shut down

Does he own stock in ethnol

 

[dkorzun21]

Re: No Ethanol

where just trying to get the updates on what ppl think not to be rude by my comment above bob_

 

[JB]

Re: No Ethanol

The problem with some topics, including E-10 or E-15, is that some people absolutely know for sure stuff that simply isn't so. That leads to argument, not discussion, and hard feelings.

E-10 is, and has been for longer than some of the experts who know all about it, a fact of life. It isn't going away anytime soon and no amount of whining and blaming is going to change that.

To prevent even more hard feelings this topic is closed.