No Spark 6HP Evinrude

[111torrance111]

I have a 6 HP Evinrude which I belive is a 1993 modle (E6RLESR) that's not getting spark on either cylinder, is it possible for two coils to fail @ the same time?

How do I test a coil?

I already pulled the plug and held it to ground while somebody pulled the rope, I also pulled the safety button out on the handle out.

The compression is 90 Lbs in each cylinder, what should it be?

Thanks

Jerry

 

[joho5]

Re: No Spark 6HP Evinrude

seems weird, but have you had this motor running before and then all of a sudden it did this? Or did you just get the motor?

the contacts and points may be set way off, or set to where they stay closed.

 

[111torrance111]

Re: No Spark 6HP Evinrude

I recently purchased the motor, the owner didn't know the condition. He stated that it came with a boat he purchased and didn't need it.

The overall condition looks goods, it didn't look abused so I thought I'd take a chance with it.

Thanks/Jerry

 

[jay_merrill]

Re: No Spark 6HP Evinrude

Based on the model number that you provided, your motor is a 1990, not a 1994. It has a stator, a charge coil, a powerpack and two ignition coils. Although you could have two bad ignition coils, you probably don't. I would suspect problems elsewhere, and the best thing to do is to buy a factory service manual, so that you can perform some basic troubleshooting. Try right here at iboats, to see if they have one.

There are no points in this motor and the 90 psi values should be sufficient. I don't know what the new specs would be for the motor, but 90 psi for a pull start motor is pretty good in general. The fact that the values are even is also a good indication.

I wouldn't be surprised if the only thing that is wrong is that your powerpack went south. According to www.shop.evinrude.com, that part (#583667) is still available and is only $129.80. The CDI brand aftermarket part (113-4488) is only $3.80 less expensive at $126.00.

If the stator (#583652) is the culprit, it is also available and is $67.54. The charge coil (#583485) is $25.31 and is available, as well. It looks like neither CDI or Sierra carry the stator for your motor, but the CDI charge coil (173-4333) is $25.00. With pricing being so close, I would say to just buy from your local dealer, because what you save in sales tax by going mail order, you will make up for in shipping.

 

[111torrance111]

Re: No Spark 6HP Evinrude

Thanks Jay,

I'll try to find a manual to help with troubleshooting, sure enough I had used the wrong two digits figuring out the year.

I looked for the stator on this motor and didn't see any elctronics other then the coils on this motor, is the stator under the flywheel?

Jerry

 

[Xcusme]

Re: No Spark 6HP Evinrude

Jerry, first check to see that the kill switch isn't grounded, killing all spark from the power pack.
Find a rubber connector with a single wire. Both halves of this connector are held together with a wire clip. That single wire should go to the kill switch in the tiller handle. If that wire is grounded anywhere along it's length , it will kill all spark to the plugs. Disconnect the coupler to disable the kill circuit. If you run the motor with the kill circuit disconnected, you'll have to choke the motor to stop the motor.
If after disconnection you still don't have spark, you'll have to check the charge coil under the flywheel. BTW, the stator is under the flywheel too and shouldn't be the source of a No Spark condition. The stator should go to the rectifier and supplys A/C voltage (which gets changed to D/C by the rectifier) for aux lighting etc.

 

[jay_merrill]

Re: No Spark 6HP Evinrude

Good info by Xcusme. Those of us that fool with the older motors forget about things like safety lanyards, and the associated circuitry! I think he is also right about the stator/charge coil. On my motors, the charge coils are actually part of the stator assembly, but on yours its a separate unit.

If you do have to remove the flywheel, be sure to use a harmonic type puller, with properly sized grade 8 bolts. Don't use a gear puller or any other type of puller. This is critical because you can actually break the aluminum flywheel if you use the wrong type of puller.

I would say to go with the cut out circuitry first, though. I think Xcusme is probably exactly right on this.

 

[111torrance111]

Re: No Spark 6HP Evinrude

I want to thank Jay & Xcusme for the great advice,

I did as directed and the motor started right up, had a hard time stopping the motor with the choke.

I disconnected the landyard plug and I had plenty of spark, sound like a nice little engine.

Now for the repair:

Based on the wireing I think the short must be in the handle, I'll have more time this weekend to test with the Ohm meter. I think I can take it from here.

Once again this site has been dead on with very little information....Good job guys.

Jerry