Noob outboard owner - winter storage worries (ie, theft)

jim_s

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I'm a noob to boats - purchased my first little boat ('01 Bayliner 160 w/ 90hp 2-stroke) late this summer, and the family and I have been having a blast with it. Sadly, the air and water temps are falling to the point that we can't get in the water anymore this year, and its about time to mothball it for the winter.

The boat has been living in our garage, but this isn't workable for the long-term. No place to store it in the yard, so we're planning to store it out at a horse farm where we know the owners. A small number of horse trailers (some relatively nice ones) are kept out there, and to the best of my knowledge, there haven't been any break-in or theft problems, but the location is not the best in our area (a few 'trouble' areas right around there). I'm a bit concerned that w/ the boat out there for the winter, the motor could potentially get stolen. (I suspect a low likelihood, but not out of the realm of possibility).

It has occurred to me that it might make sense to remove the motor, and keep it in the garage for the winter, but I'm hesitant to screw with the mounting through the transom, for fear of introducing a leak, weakening the transom over time, etc. From what I can see, the mounting of the engine to the transom bracket is via a combined joint that acts as the mounting, the tilt pivot and the steering cable guide. This looks like maybe the next best place to try to remove the engine?

So, my question is (there is a question here, amongst all of my nail biting :) - A) Am I over-worrying about the possibility of theft of the engine? B) if I'm not overworrying, and removal of the engine would make some sense, what would be the best way to go about that - minimizing the risk of damage to the transom (as well as avoiding a whole heap of work on the removal and replacement) C) other thoughts/advice/etc from more experienced boaters?

Obviously, keeping it in a locked boat storage facility comes to mind, but there aren't any real close by (at least I can check on the boat, keep it clear of snow accumulation, etc out at the barn), and they're fairly expensive by comparison (one month in proper storage would cost more than the whole winter at the barn), so I'd ideally find a way to make the local storage option work.

Thanks for any constructive input!
 

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Re: Noob outboard owner - winter storage worries (ie, theft)

I'm a noob to boats - purchased my first little boat ('01 Bayliner 160 w/ 90hp 2-stroke) late this summer, and the family and I have been having a blast with it. Sadly, the air and water temps are falling to the point that we can't get in the water anymore this year, and its about time to mothball it for the winter.

The boat has been living in our garage, but this isn't workable for the long-term. No place to store it in the yard, so we're planning to store it out at a horse farm where we know the owners. A small number of horse trailers (some relatively nice ones) are kept out there, and to the best of my knowledge, there haven't been any break-in or theft problems, but the location is not the best in our area (a few 'trouble' areas right around there). I'm a bit concerned that w/ the boat out there for the winter, the motor could potentially get stolen. (I suspect a low likelihood, but not out of the realm of possibility).

It has occurred to me that it might make sense to remove the motor, and keep it in the garage for the winter, but I'm hesitant to screw with the mounting through the transom, for fear of introducing a leak, weakening the transom over time, etc. From what I can see, the mounting of the engine to the transom bracket is via a combined joint that acts as the mounting, the tilt pivot and the steering cable guide. This looks like maybe the next best place to try to remove the engine?

So, my question is (there is a question here, amongst all of my nail biting :) - A) Am I over-worrying about the possibility of theft of the engine? B) if I'm not overworrying, and removal of the engine would make some sense, what would be the best way to go about that - minimizing the risk of damage to the transom (as well as avoiding a whole heap of work on the removal and replacement) C) other thoughts/advice/etc from more experienced boaters?

Obviously, keeping it in a locked boat storage facility comes to mind, but there aren't any real close by (at least I can check on the boat, keep it clear of snow accumulation, etc out at the barn), and they're fairly expensive by comparison (one month in proper storage would cost more than the whole winter at the barn), so I'd ideally find a way to make the local storage option work.

Thanks for any constructive input!

If you want to "dismount" it is fairly easy if you have a way to lift the motor.
4 mounting bolts, control cables, power cable and the steering cable. You might have to slide the motor to one side to get the entire steering rod out. All in all about a 30 minute job - tops. Now you will need a strong motor stand and room for the OB during the winter. Inside storage will not hurt it ;) When it get's remounted in the spring you will just need to seal the bolts with 3m4000 series or 3m5200 - no leaks!

I have no idea of the crime area you live in and if stolen OB are common. Even in a high crime area to remove an OB that is mounted AND covered is not common. If you cover the boat and "tent the cover" to shed snow you will be fine. The "bad" news is nothing will stop a thief. With a battery powered saws-all the motor can be cut off the boat and gone in a few minutes........ you will NOT stop a thief. OB being stolen are actually rare - call your local police and ask ;) I am aware of two personally in the last 15 years.

Store the boat covered and the outboard in the down position. Put a gallon zip lock bag over the prop to discourage mice from entering. Leave the motor on and you will be fine. Place a good lock on the trailer.

Sadly, I put my boat and motor into the storage mode earlier this week and it snowed the very next day.
 

roscoe

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Re: Noob outboard owner - winter storage worries (ie, theft)

Leave the motor on the boat.

If really paranoid, then remove the prop and take it home.

Then, remove the battery, and you guessed it, take it home and put it on a charger over the winter.




Remove the lower unit if you want.
Put the trailer on jack stands with large wooden planks under them to support the weight, then remove the tires and take them home too.
 

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Re: Noob outboard owner - winter storage worries (ie, theft)

In the end a good insurance policy and perhaps removing the prop is about all I would recommend, if that. It's not really standard to be taking the outboard off these boats for the winter just to avoid theft. I think you will find taking it off/getting it back on w/o any issues will be tougher than you think. The weight and trying to move that thing around will be very hard. I have never done this and I've owned outboards for 25 years.
 

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Re: Noob outboard owner - winter storage worries (ie, theft)

Store it in the barn with the proper winterizing procedures and make sure you have good insurance against theft.
 

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Re: Noob outboard owner - winter storage worries (ie, theft)

Try this: put a sign on it:
SPRING PROJECT BOAT FOR SALE $500-- Transom needs replacing, stringers rotted. Engine siezed up-- for sale for parts only. Trailer OK but needs new tires and lights and some welding work. Gas tank needs cleaning. No battery. Call 555-1234


Obviously every situation is different but it seems to me that a motor that size is not the typical target for thieves: hard to remove and carry off; little value--especially a 14 year old motor. A $300 SS prop on it would be the target if anything. And few thieves are boaters anyway. So it would take a special thief with a real plan in mind; most thefts are simply crimes of opportunity. Seems he'd more likey hook up the whole rig and deal with it elsewhere.

A clamp-on 25 would be a concern--and for the same reason a likely target, easy enough to remove and store.

Hmm now that I write it sounds like ads I see on craigslist!
 

jim_s

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Re: Noob outboard owner - winter storage worries (ie, theft)

Thanks All for the replies, advice and needed perspective. :) As with anything 'new' to someone, I've likely spent far more time worrying about this than is warranted. I purchased a McGard 'locking' outboard transom nut (like one of those theft-resistant lug nuts on fancy rims), and am hoping that if some opportunistic miscreant happens to covet my little 12-yr-old outboard, the inconvenience of that nut will lead him to look elsewhere. (or, cause him to fly into a rage and cut the motor from the boat... ;-)

I am going to take the advice to pull the prop off, esp since its a new 4-bladed prop, and will of course pull all removable items of interest (battery, fish finder, tools, PFDs, ski, etc) out of the boat. I am also going to review my insurance policy, and may bump it up a bit for the winter.

I'm reasonably confident that things will be fine, but if things do go bad, I'll be sure to report back. :)

Thanks for everyone's input - it has definitely been helpful!!

Jim
 

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