NOOB to carb rebuild, johnson 9.5. Need your help!

gfakkema

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Hello,
I recently purchased a 1968 johnson 9.5 and need to rebuild the carb. I have worked around a few outboards in the past, but am new to carbs, and am a little timid about taking on the task. I have researched what I could on the rebuilding process and consulted the sticky in the beginning of the forums and leeroys ramblings, but the information is just a little vague. I plan on taking many pictures and notes as I disassemble, but had a few questions for all you vets out there. I have printed the parts diagram, but it looks like there are a lot of little pieces/parts and I am a little put back. I am mainly concerned about cleaning the high speed jet because this was area that I diagnosed as being clogged/malfunctioning. I have been told by some to clean it out with a piece of wire, and told by others NOT to stick anything in the jet. 1) will I need a special tool to remove the high speed jet or will a small screwdriver work? 2) will soaking the parts in alcohol and blowing with air completely clean the parts? 3) does anybody have the manual for this motor that would be willing to send pics of the carb assembly instructions or willing to type some of the assembly instructions? I have been told that some screws have peened ends on them and are not meant to be removed, and removing ruins the carb. 4) any advice that you can give me to help in the assembly process? 5) any advice you can give on the adjustment process once the carb is re-assembled and re-installed? Thanks in advance!

PS, I found this, but it didn't really say how to adjust the carb once installed, any additional information would be much appreciated!

Instructions

Disassembly
1) Hold the carburetor over a shop sink and remove the drain screw from the bottom of the carburetor bowl with a screwdriver. Drain any fuel that may remain in the bowl and discard the gasket from the drain screw.
2) Unscrew the mixture screw and its spring from the top of the carburetor and unscrew the seven screws that hold the carburetor cover. Remove the cover and the gasket from the carburetor. Turn the carburetor upside down and remove the float bowl, the check ball, check valve cap and gasket
3) Push the hinge pin out with a punch. Separate the float and float valve from the carburetor as a unit and separate the float from the float valve and gasket from the float. Pull the high speed jet from the carburetor.
4) Take the the idle speed screw and its spring out of the boss on the side of the carburetor. Remove the cover on the bottom of the float bowl and remove the spring, the diaphragm, the retainer and O-ring as well as the check valve assembly from the carburetor. Take the accelerator pump cover off and remove the diaphragm and plunger.
5) Clean everything with isopropyl alcohol and blow each piece dry with compressed air, using a compressor and air hose.

The Rebuild
6) Lay out the parts of the carburetor rebuild kit and identify each. Install the check valve assembly, O-ring, retainer, diaphragm and spring, in that order into the bottom of the float bowl. Ensure the retainer's flat side is against the check valve assembly. Position the diaphragm so the outer rib fits in the cover groove.
7) Thread the high-speed jet into place in the carburetor body. Use a new gasket and install the float valve seat. Insert the float valve into the valve seat.
8) Use the hinge pin to install the float. Check float height adjustment using the cutout marked on the float gauge. Bend the float arm so that it rests between the notches on the gauge.
9) Attach the end cap. Install a new gasket on the float bowl and attach the the float bowl to the carburetor, tightening the float bowl attachment screws to 8 inch-pounds with a torque wrench, according to the sequence stamped on the top of the float bowl.
10) Thread the idle speed adjustment screw and its spring into the vertical boss on the carburetor's side until it barely touches the idle adjustment lever. Use a new gasket when you install the carburetor cover on the carburetor body. Tighten the cover screws to 8 inch-pounds using a torque wrench, in the sequence stamped on the face of the cover. Thread the idle mixture screw and its spring into the round boss on the cover until it lightly touches the seat.
 

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Re: NOOB to carb rebuild, johnson 9.5. Need your help!

I have printed the parts diagram, but it looks like there are a lot of little pieces/parts and I am a little put back. I am mainly concerned about cleaning the high speed jet because this was area that I diagnosed as being clogged/malfunctioning. I have been told by some to clean it out with a piece of wire, and told by others NOT to stick anything in the jet. 1) will I need a special tool to remove the high speed jet or will a small screwdriver work? 2) will soaking the parts in alcohol and blowing with air completely clean the parts? 3) does anybody have the manual for this motor that would be willing to send pics of the carb assembly instructions or willing to type some of the assembly instructions? I have been told that some screws have peened ends on them and are not meant to be removed, and removing ruins the carb. 4) any advice that you can give me to help in the assembly process? 5) any advice you can give on the adjustment process once the carb is re-assembled and re-installed? Thanks in advance!
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My advice to you is calm down and stop worrying so much. That is a simple carburetor and not much goes wrong with it other than dirt or old gas gum.
I am of the school that says don't be jamming wires and stuff through the high speed jet. If you must, then use something like a piece of nylon fishing leader.

Once you get the top and bottom separated, you can look in and evaluate the situation. Is it a total mess or is the problem limited to gunk in the bottom of the bowl. Do your repairs with a bit of common sense.

Moving on..
1. You need the special tool. Or a real good substitute. The tool has parallel sides both width-wise and thick-wise. Just any old screwdriver may spread the soft brass jet or bugger up the threads, making it harder to remove than it was. If you try it, don't force it.

2. Depends on what you are dealing with. If gum and varnish, a commercial carburetor cleaner is best. Get one of the little dip cans from the auto parts store. It will get that stuff looking like new----even that jet you can't get out.

3. Absolutely, DO NOT remove the staked screws in the throttle and choke plates. It WILL destroy the carburetor. Besides, there is no reason to remove them anyway. And all those little lead shots and stuff that you are looking at----it is extremely rare that any of that has to come out either.

4, 5. Send me a PM. with your e-mail address.

Lastly, the instructions you printed are generically ok, but not model specific. For instance yours does not have a diaphragm. Again, it is making too much out of the deal.
 

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Re: NOOB to carb rebuild, johnson 9.5. Need your help!

I agree with F_R but was reluctant to say it. You will succeed. As carbs. go they don't get much simpler. Use lots of compressed air to blow the passages after cleaning. Best of luck. Rick.
 

gfakkema

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Re: NOOB to carb rebuild, johnson 9.5. Need your help!

Thanks F_R and Rick. I figured that this would be fairly straightforward, but I just wanted to get any additional info that I could before I start tearing into the carb. I have jumped into a couple of projects in the past without doing the proper research and it has come back to bite me (i.e. probably would have tried to remove the staked screws and ruined the carb without even knowing it) The other thing that worries me is the age of the motor. It is getting harder and harder to find parts for these guys, and I would hate to ruin something and have to spend 2 years trying to find a used one somewhere. About the special tool for removing the high speed jet, I saw the measurements in the sticky, but it doesn't say how tall the slot needs to be. Can it be taller than the one pictured or should it be relatively close to the one pictured. Thanks.
 

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Re: NOOB to carb rebuild, johnson 9.5. Need your help!

No problem if the blade (slot as you call it) is longer except for strength. Too long and it may twist or break.
 

gfakkema

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Re: NOOB to carb rebuild, johnson 9.5. Need your help!

Thanks F_R, I got everything worked out. It definitely was way more simple than I had anticipated. Was easier than having to take the lower unit apart. Like I said, I was worried about little parts etc, but it was way easier than I thought. Got the motor up and running like a champ. Had it out on the lake today and up on a plane like no one's business. 20 mph in a little 12' boat can get a little scary at times, but well worth it. Thanks again F_R and all the iboats vets!
 

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Re: NOOB to carb rebuild, johnson 9.5. Need your help!

Glad to hear you had success. Rick.
 
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