octane fuel

bozza_boatie

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I have a 1998 Cheetah 23" tunnel with a 350 Mag and Bravo 1. It has factory fuel injection and 4" through transom exaust. I have been getting a large amount of black residue on the back of the boat. We boat at lake Havasu and there are areas of extended no wake zones. I have been using 92 octane fuel but was told by someone that this engine should use 87 to 89 octane. I was also told that by running the higher octane fuel my computer can't adjust the timming correctly thus the black residue. Any other ideas?
 

JB

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Re: octane fuel

Moving to I/O
 

ZmOz

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Re: octane fuel

You should use the lowest octane you can without knocking, probably 87 for that engine.
 

tryan

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Re: octane fuel

an octane rating is inversely related to rate of flame travel. you will get better performance with lower octane fuel since the motor is designed for 87-89 octane.
 

ron7000

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Re: octane fuel

octane should not have any effect on exhaust, from 87 to 93. The detergents in the fuel and the quality of fuel determines that.<br /><br />With octane, ZmOz hit the nail on the head. with automotive motors having knock sensors, the computer will know the engine is knocking under throttle, as in the case with low octane fuel, and retard ignition timing to prevent the detonation. The effect is a loss of power. By running the level of octane needed, the engine won't knock and the computer won't retard ignition timing at all under throttle, and you get full power. That is the case with the Chevy LS1 motor in the F-body and Vette. They recommend 93 octane, but state 87 is acceptable.<br /><br />The statement about the computer not being able to adjust timing correctly does not apply to your situation- at idle or low throttle. The motor isn't going to knock at idle speed, so there isn't going to be any timing adjustment being done by the computer. That usually only happens when under load and your running 30+ degrees of advance. Also, I'm not aware of any marine engines having knock sensors, so I can't figure how the computer would ever know the motor is detonating. A knock sensor on a boat motor would give false readings whenever you started wave hopping.<br /><br />My guess is the motor is running pig rich and that's what's causing the black residue buildup at slow speeds. One solution might be to go one heat range hotter on the spark plugs, but whatch out you don't get knocking at high rpm's. Also check that you're running the correct spark plugs, and that none are fouled.
 

rodbolt

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Re: octane fuel

almost all marine EFI engines by volvo and merc have a knocksensor.<br /> its mounted on the block neat the wter drains. what engine temp are you reading><br /> if the engine thinks its cold or you have any air leaks at the map sensor or you have an ignition problem the computer will add fuel to try to make the RPM correspond to the TPS angle.<br /> dont go hotter plugs find and fix the engine. some black soot on certain exhaust points is normal. without looking at yours its hard to tell. you can hook up a laptop and observe the IAC angle as well as the ingector pulsewidth while running. the iac will be out of the circuit at anything above 1500 rpm. it could be a lot of things. if the computer thinks the engine is cold for any reason it will increase injector pulse width or if the rail pressure is to high it will deliver to much fuel at a normal pulsewidth. the only way to tell is with a laptop and experience in reading the data. sounds like you can also have a sensor with an "in range" failure.<br /> good luck and keep posting but ask anydealer you take it to to at least see the EFI/fuel school certification.
 

MFG197

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Re: octane fuel

late model carbed mercs with "lx" in the name have knock sensors
 
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