oil filter

[hunkajnk]

i just bought me a new 17 ft glastron. it has a mercruiser 3.0 tks. year model is 2008. im trying to find a oil filter for it. would like to cross to a fram if could. anyone have any idea where to find that or know the number off hand. thanksalot

 

[JB]

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First lesson, hunk. A Mercruiser is not an outboard, it is an I/O.

Moving this.

 

[hunkajnk]

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my bad just posted in wrong spot

 

[180shabah]

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Second lesson - FRAM = CRAP. They are one of the worst filters on the market, although they are cheap and look pretty in that bright orange. They are bad in a car and absolutely worthless in a marine engine. The merc filter is only $9, and the Sierra is probably a little cheaper, so this is not a good place to "save money"

 

[buggiedad_67]

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since merc doesnt make thier own parts they just buy them from a manufacture lets find out just who does sure would be interesting if fram did!

 

[JustJason]

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I use the napa filters, they are made buy US Filter... pretty much top notch

 

[buggiedad_67]

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i use ac delco because only becuse well just because no real reason

 

[orion25]

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I use the mercury filter. Get them at Wal Mart. Along with the fuel filter and oil.

 

[Don S]

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Let's see, GM sells thousands of engines to Mercruiser every year. They have GM parts thru and Thur. Do you think they might use a Phrumpy filter, or do you think they might use a GM AC Delco filter, possibly renumbered with a Mercruiser filter number. Who do you think warrants this engine in the end? Merc might give you a new engine, but GM reimburses Merc.

 

[chiefalen]

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t must be me ,yesterday I did a oil change on my wifes car.It has close to 100,000 miles on it runs good.Does not burn 1 drop of oil only fram filters,wal-mart cheapest oil.50,000 on my van same oil and filters.132,000 on mountaineer just gave it to my son,same filters and oil.80,000 on the tercel same stuff.1976 evinrude outboard runs like brand new only in fresh water wal-mart stuff.compression good in all the cars and the outboard.Same as in my boat in signature.The guy i got the boat from used wal-mart cheapest stuff. What am i missing in spending alot more money for what?This is a boat site but 1964 snow thrower craftsman like brand new compression i know just checked it.Wal-mart cheapest oil but straight 30 weight in that.Pressure washer 10 years old same oil.Riding lawn mower same oil.Generator 15 years old all the same.2 chinese real p.o.s quads 15w40 in them.Oh 20 year old daughters 2008 tiburion cheap oil.
Enquireing minds want to know!

 

[Maclin]

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You may be lucky chief! But then again if you change early and often then you have avoided a lot of the problems that can occur by cheapening out.

My brother bought a used V10 Dodge truck a while back, and recently went thru the oiling system to fix a low pressure problem along with some noise, like lifter clatter on startup. The previous owner bragged about using only Fram. There was this light tannish ball of junk with a real wierd consistency hanging around the bottom of the pan around and in the pickup, that was part of the problem (that and 120k+ miles!). I told him I thought it was probably due to the previous owner using Fram and extending the oil change intervals past what Fram can tolerate. The standard line of Fram uses not-so-long-lasting paper compared to other brands, also the actual construction is not the best. You cannot run them past 3k ever. Their other gold ones or whatever thay call them now are more like other brands and last longer, but it is more or less a marketing ploy. MoPar, AC Delco, Purolator all have better materials and construction, this is from research I have seen. But since I cannot link to it or reference it specifically then it is just my opinion. I do know that on one car I had with tight clearances the Fram filter would not fit whereas the Purolator filter would, the housing was just different enough that it could clear some a/c lines. GM had a specific shape specified and Fram did not care but Purolator did, those nuances are what separate the brands, just another of my opinions. I was a Purolator fan after that incident.

Now on my Boat I use Volvo OEM, just not worth the effort to save a buck or two once a year. OEM buys a lot of peace of mind. Plus the next guy or gal will have more confidence if they are knowledgeable.

 

[Maclin]

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Hunkajnk,

Here is a link to a very recent post where one of the members here got a good deal because the previous owner tried to cut corners....

http://forums.iboats.com/showpost.php?p=1712175&postcount=1



I recommend going OEM just so you will know it is right.

 

[Alumarine]

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2cnd lesson. Don't ever bring up Oil or Oil filters.

To answer your question, a Fram PH30 MIGHT be the right number.
(you didn't hear it from me)

btw Welcome

 

[JustJason]

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gheez... doesn't anyone here besides me use napa filters?

 

[180shabah]

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WOW! go away for a few days and look what happens.

Here is a little lite reading

There was another study done a few years ago that specifically targeted "marine" filters and as soon as I dig it up I will post it. The short short version is :

Fram filters offer very high filtration, BUT low flow capability, which means that as oil pressure rises(like it does at higher RPM's) the filter becomes a restriction andt he bypass valve opens = NO FILTRATION at this point. You can get away with this in a car(and millions do every year) In a marine engine your odds go down(although they are probably still in your favor, because few marine engines succumb to oil related failures - That pesy water intrusion takes out alot more) but the $6 per year savings just never seemed worth it. Also, lets not forget the cheap construction, lotsa plastic and cardboard inside that pretty can.

Don - the Merc filter is not a repainted AC filter. Merc went the opposite direction of FRAM. They sacrificed filtering ability for a high flow rate. They were able to flow 3 times(IIRC) the oil without popping the bypass valve. Basically traded great filtration at idle for OK filtration at all speeds.

Jason - your NAPA filteres are made by WIX and have always been top contenders in filter comparisons. I use the NAPA Gold filters in my cars and truck.

Last but not least, and this is what I now use in the boat(I gotta find that marine filter study) the K&N oil filter. They use a cellulous filter media that offers filtration equal to the best(including WIX and the beloved FRAM's) AND has a flow rate that is slightly higher than the merc filter. It is the best of both worlds, but pricey at $15 each. However, once a year, it really doesn't make much difference financially.

 

[Bondo]

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gheez... doesn't anyone here besides me use napa filters?

Ayuh,... I Do....

The Construction Fleet of Equipment,+ Mack trucks,....
As well as the Fleet of Boats that I maintain, All are run on strictly Napa Filters......

 

[JustJason]

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hmmmm i know that napa is wix and wix is dana but i did hear somewhere along the line that it was all done by "us filter".... i'll have to take another look at that one and see where i found it.

 

[Rob454]

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While I never had a problem with Fram filters And i think a lot of the so called FRAM filter problems are simply I heard it from a friend who heard it from a friend. Now dont you think since Fram is the BIGGEST filter maker could it be possible that they may have a few bad ones that get through? Yes I believe there are better filters out there for not much more $$. I dont think spending 15-18$ on a oil filter is gonna do that much for the motor but to each his own. I have a old 1989 GMC that has 340 000 miles on the original motor. Gave it to my wifes son. All that motor ever had was Fram Filters and Valvoline oil. most of the problems are catchable but most people dont even look at their guages cause theire too busy yammering on the cell to notice the oil pressure dropping. As for overtightening story i dont care what filter you have the O ring at one point is gonna give up when overtightening it.
I have a bayliner. I went to NAPA and got some napa filters. I think they cost 4$ a pop. The oil I use supertech. I read somewhere its made by Quaker State. Not sure if thats true or not but Ive used Supertech before on my cars and never had a problem with it.