Older motor on a new boat

[SeaNymph Man]

I am thinking of trading in my old 1973 Sea Nymph 14R for a new 2010 Lund A-14 utility-v bottom with motor and trailer. The A-14 is rated for a 15 HP
motor as the maximum allowable HP. With four stroke motors being heavier,
I am wondering if it would be more feasible to go with an older two stroke motor such as a 1980's or newer 15 HP two stroke Evinrude/Johnson motor.
I thought about going through AFA Marine(www.smalloutboards.com)for the motor,but I don't want to pay a huge shipping fee. However,they may be the only place I can get an older motor. Dealers around my area won't mess with
the older Evinrudes and Johnsons. My Lund dealer carries Mercury,but I don't trust their motors that much due to past experiences with Mercury. He also carries Honda,but they are way too expensive! I don't know how he would feel if I told him I was not going to go with the brand of motor he carries and
stick an older 'rude or Johnny motor on that new A-14. I wonder how a 9.9
Evinrude or Johnson would perform on that Lund compared to a 15!

 

[OldMercsRule]

Re: Older motor on a new boat

I dunno where yer livin', butt: here in God's country a sweet 15 Johnnyrude 2 stroke is $300 to $700 this time of year, (on CL). I picked up a very nice 9.9 with electric start fer a song...... this year

I also own a 1985 SeaNymph 14' aluminum. Dunno the model butt: is has real high gunnels fer rough water n' the thicker guage aluminum n' is rated fer a 25HP prop rated engine.

We first ran a 1974 25HP Johnson rated at the crank, n' also a 1976 6HP Johnson rated at the crank. The 6HP would plane it with an extension on the tiller so I could sit on the middle seat, and would do OK with two people butt: couldn't get on step with more then two.

The 25 HP prop rated Mercs, (I have run two of 'em on the boat an 1987 and a 1996) really make the her fly, (even faster then the older Johnny did which also really got with it). The 9.9 HP Johnny gets her on step with me sittin' in the rear, (I put the gas tank up front).

I would keep yer SeaNymph n' pick up a 15 Johnnyrude (or the max rated power Johnnyrude), as ya don't need ta do anything to 'em 'cept keep the water pump workin' n' the fuel system clean, n' spark plugs from time to time.

Don't need a darn dealer, buy one from a person who doesn't use their Johnnyrude anymore. Those darn things run nearly forever.

Me overpriced $02. JR

 

[jasper60103]

Re: Older motor on a new boat

I am thinking of trading in my old 1973 Sea Nymph 14R for a new 2010 Lund A-14 utility-v bottom with motor and trailer. ...!

Nothing wrong with an old johnnyRude.
But new tin is expensive, and a old boat will float just as well as a new one.
Anywho, some nice rigs show up on Craigslist all the time. Good luck.

 

[jdsgrog]

Re: Older motor on a new boat

Not sure why you want to get rid of/replace your old sea nymph. Something wrong with it? With the money you'd spend for a new boat, I'd buy a few older motors of different hp for different applications. The sea nymph is rated for a 25hp. You can get an older 25hp johnnyrude in good running condition for a quarter of the cost of a new tinny...and best thing about the old johnnyrudes, they're easy enough for a person to work on by himself.

 

[tmcalavy]

Re: Older motor on a new boat

Don't know where you live, but check the clubs/chapters page at this site: www.aomci.org
Good people who specialize in older motors...as far back as you want to go. There may be a spring swap/trade meet coming up in your area...good place to see and shop for motors of several makes and years. Good luck with your boat upgrade.

 

[steelespike]

Re: Older motor on a new boat

If I was changing boats I would look to improve a little.
I think the WC14 is a better bet,its 6" longer and 8" wider.
Rated for 25.It will plane better than the A14 with a load and a 9.9 or 15.
It will feel like a ship compared to the A14. If I was buying a used 2 stroke
9.9 or 15 It would be the 15 same size and weight as the 9.9.

 

[SeaNymph Man]

Re: Older motor on a new boat

Well,if nothing else,what do you think of this idea? I could just look into a new
trailer for it and step down in motor size just a bit. That 18 HP Fastwin is just
a bit too much for me on that 14 FT. Sea Nymph of mine even though it's rated for 25 HP. I really think a 15 would be enough on that size boat. Nothing is wrong with the boat,...just thought I might upgrade. But then again,one would have to ask himself; "Do I really need to be dealing with a boat payment?" Not really sure I want to,now that I think about it. Afterall,I
just recently as of October of last year,traded tow vehicles. Should I decide
to go ahead with the upgrade,Lund has a new WD-14 that is basically an A-14,...only wider. It has the same style seats as the A-14. It is still about five to six months away,so I may change my mind by then,keep the boat I have,and step down in motor size instead.

 

[OldMercsRule]

Re: Older motor on a new boat

Not much that you have said makes ANY sense to me.

Here on iboats we like boats to float n' whatever floats yours should work for you.

Good luck. JR

 

[whofan]

Re: Older motor on a new boat

I am thinking of trading in my old 1973 Sea Nymph 14R for a new 2010 Lund A-14 utility-v bottom with motor and trailer. The A-14 is rated for a 15 HP
motor as the maximum allowable HP. With four stroke motors being heavier,
I am wondering if it would be more feasible to go with an older two stroke motor such as a 1980's or newer 15 HP two stroke Evinrude/Johnson motor.
I thought about going through AFA Marine(www.smalloutboards.com)for the motor,but I don't want to pay a huge shipping fee. However,they may be the only place I can get an older motor. Dealers around my area won't mess with
the older Evinrudes and Johnsons. My Lund dealer carries Mercury,but I don't trust their motors that much due to past experiences with Mercury. He also carries Honda,but they are way too expensive! I don't know how he would feel if I told him I was not going to go with the brand of motor he carries and
stick an older 'rude or Johnny motor on that new A-14. I wonder how a 9.9
Evinrude or Johnson would perform on that Lund compared to a 15!

How about a new motor on a old boat?


First off I believe in buying American.
A 15 Johnson would be a good choice.

That said the money you would save by sticking with your old boat you could buy a 15 hp Honda from your dealer.

Thats what I would do if my boat is good.

The Honda 15 is a pure joy I`ve used one before. Its quiet and sips fuel. You can drop down to a 3 gallon tank and have plenty fuel for most situations.

No more mixing fuel. Smoother running, good for a tiller.

Keep your boat buy a new Honda.

The Honda will make your old boat new again.

Utility boats I really don`t know what advantage would be for upgrading or for one brand over the other for that matter.

 

[SeaNymph Man]

Re: Older motor on a new boat

Some brands of utility-v bottoms are made better than others and the fact that new boats have to meet USCG requirements and ABYC standards. Some of the best built utility-Vs I have seen are Lund,Sea Nymph,and Crestliner,...which I am also considering if I decide to go ahead with an upgrade. I could always upgrade to a newer "used" version of the same model
Sea Nymph I have now should I choose to go that route and hopefully find one that has a 15 HP Evinrude or Johnson motor. Just like to keep my options open for whatever becomes possible and doable. If I go with a brand new motor on my current boat,I am going to choose Tohatsu over Honda,...Tohatsu is far less expensive than Honda.

 

[tashasdaddy]

Re: Older motor on a new boat

any 15 hp Johnson 1956 up. properly maintained will give you good service.

 

[whofan]

Re: Older motor on a new boat

Some brands of utility-v bottoms are made better than others and the fact that new boats have to meet USCG requirements and ABYC standards. Some of the best built utility-Vs I have seen are Lund,Sea Nymph,and Crestliner,...which I am also considering if I decide to go ahead with an upgrade. I could always upgrade to a newer "used" version of the same model
Sea Nymph I have now should I choose to go that route and hopefully find one that has a 15 HP Evinrude or Johnson motor. Just like to keep my options open for whatever becomes possible and doable. If I go with a brand new motor on my current boat,I am going to choose Tohatsu over Honda,...Tohatsu is far less expensive than Honda.

I guess in my own ingnorance I did not notice one brand being better than the next.

My boat is a Lund by the way. I fished in other great hulls made by other names.

I know you can get a semi V hull (that is common on most utility boats) and you can get a full deep V hull.
I have noticed that Starcraft has a nice full V hull boat in this class. I was impressed looking at them at my local Dealer. Just saying don`t get hung up on brand name when cost is a concern. Don`t buy Lund in this class because its a Lund.
I have read many opinions by those who know, that Tohatsu makes one hell of good motor.
If the unthinkible were to happen can you get Tohatsu parts and service where you live?
You have to weigh all your options. If I had to compromise on cost the motor would be the last place I`d do it.
I all comes down to fixin or fishing, both cost money but I`d rather do one over the other.
I`m a Johnson Evinrude guy myself. Some of the best motors ever built. Todays motors I`d say are better that they`ve ever been. Whos the best? Who knows! If I were to buy a new boat I`d be hard pressed not to go with a new motor.

You said that your local dealer dealt in Honda and Mercury.
Unless you can do your own wrenching service is #1 on your List of concern.

Looking for a deal going used,
Keep your eye open at the listings here at Iboats for used boats. Also I wouldn`t think twice about ordering a motor here either .
I`ve had good service through Iboats. In fact above and beyond good service.