OMC 800 stringer broke. What might be wrong?

rs2k

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The starboard stringer went out on my twin engine cabin cruiser today. It is an OMC 260HP 800 full mechanical shift stringer. I was cruising along at 2900 RPM heading back to the dock when all of a sudden (and instantly) the starboard engine started to over rev. I quickly took both engines to idle to have a look. There was no prop damage and I was in deep water at the time. I do not believe anything hit the prop. The only clue as to something being wrong with this out drive was I when I drained the oil earlier this year there was evidence of water contamination. I believe this was due to a loose oil plug as this problem has not showed up since. Other than that, the out drive had not had any problems at all and shifted beautifully. It was my starboard out drive that had a bit of a shifting problem... Why couldn't have that one broke instead? :(

The starboard engine's prop would not spin in forward or reverse and there was a deep rattling noise coming from the out drive whether or not the out drive was in or out of gear. I do not hear any other noises or change in noises when trying to shift the engine and I noticed it was slightly more difficult to shift the out drive. It felt like the engine wasn't running when trying to shift it.

When I turn the prop and prop shaft by hand it turns smoothly and without any resistance. When I turn the prop back and forth I do not feel any gear slop like I did when everything worked. Before when I turned the prop back and forth I would feel a slight gear slop.

What's the most likely component damaged? The low end or top end? What part in that component is most likely damaged?

I will be pulling the boat out of the water tomorrow to start dis-assembly of the drive.

I'm glad I had a second engine to get me back home or I'd still be back out at the lake waiting for help. :rolleyes:
 

thannah84

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Re: OMC 800 stringer broke. What might be wrong?

Sounds like ball gears stripped, but now that you say there is something rattling inside, I bet your drive shaft is stripped, only 1 way to find out!!!
 

rs2k

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Re: OMC 800 stringer broke. What might be wrong?

The ball gears where replaced a few years ago and had very little wear the last time I check them. I also heard them clapping like normal when I raised the out drive with the engine running. I went ahead and just purchased used low end off of ebay. I figured it would be good to at least have a backup even if this low end is okay.

I rented a slip for a week to get the trailer fixed up. I'll hurry up with the trailer in the morning and get the boat back home to get the out drive off tomorrow.
 

dan t.

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Re: OMC 800 stringer broke. What might be wrong?

bet you anything it is the upper gearcase output shaft and waterpump shaft. very common
 

rs2k

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Re: OMC 800 stringer broke. What might be wrong?

What does it take to replace those parts? Does it require any special tools to replace?
 

rs2k

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Re: OMC 800 stringer broke. What might be wrong?

I noticed the prop doesn't move at all when placing the unit in gear. I've read that a stripped drive shaft will usually make at least some movement when the prop is out of the water.
 

rs2k

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Re: OMC 800 stringer broke. What might be wrong?

I just pulled the low end off. The oil inside looked a little milky. The low end appears to work fine though. The water pump shaft in the top end does not turn when the engine turns but it moves up and down. My best guess right now is a snapped water pump shaft.
 

rs2k

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Re: OMC 800 stringer broke. What might be wrong?

Every single tooth on the drive shaft gear has been sheered off. I'll post a picture as soon as I can. Looks like I need new gears in the top end. I'm going to have to cut the the tips of the remaining gear with a dremel to get it out of the housing. They have been deformed.
 

rs2k

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Re: OMC 800 stringer broke. What might be wrong?

Here's the pic of the gear set.

The small image what new gears looks like.

The bearings somehow survived. There was very little debris in the gear box and very little metal on the magnetic drain plug. The teeth became fused with the other gear. What looks like melted plastic is actually metal. Those gears must have sure gotten hot! What's amazing is how quickly it happened.
 

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