Overheating at WOT. Not the usual solution....

ChazzL

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I have a 1982 Mercruiser 470. Since I got it a couple of years ago it has been overheating at high revs. (over 200 degrees F.). I know this engine has a history of problems, but this one has had most of them fixed already- new alternator, new 4" heat exchanger, etc. I replaced the cam seals 2 years ago. That's the only problem I've had other than the overheating.
I have removed the risers and heat exchanger and cleaned them out (they weren't that bad). I replaced them with new gaskets, etc.
I replaced the water pump and impeller. I also removed the water-cooled voltage regulator (not needed w/ new alternator). At that time I tested the water flow rate from the pump and it met specs. I have drained and flushed closed coolant system a number of times. There seems to be no air bubbles in the coolant.
At that point everything led me to believe a head gasket leak. I sent the boat off to a trusted mechanic. He did all the things I did a second time. In addition he installed new plugs and wires. He also pressure tested the cylinders and said they all held pressure (150 psi for a few hours I think). That ruled out the head gasket.
I thought the carb could be running to lean but he said that wasn't possible with this model. We're now leaning towards some internal deposits that are hindering the temp transfer. He's afraid to do an acid wash because of the tin and copper (or brass?) parts that would be damaged.
Now he says the only real option is to start taking the engine apart to see what we find. However, that could get expensive, and parts may not be available.
So...... before I sink this, I mean sell this boat (with disclosure of course) I thought I would see if anyone here has any last suggestions? You guys are awesome and I really appreciate your help.
 

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Re: Overheating at WOT. Not the usual solution....

I thought the carb could be running to lean but he said that wasn't possible with this model.

Ayuh,.... I ain't got an answer for ya, but I Do question that statement,..??

Diagnosin' a Lean condition at Wot, starts at the fuel tank vent, 'n works it's way to the hi-speed jets in the carb,....

No particular "Model" is excused,....
 

ChazzL

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Re: Overheating at WOT. Not the usual solution....

I kinda wonder myself. He said you could "lean this carb all the way out" and it wouldn't overheat the engine. I'll check the vent (tho I think it's ok). I use always use Startron Starbright gas additive to try to keep things clean in the carb, etc. Is there an easier test than taking the carb off for a rebuild?
 

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Re: Overheating at WOT. Not the usual solution....

Guessing you have a raw water flow problem. You may have a restriction in the exhaust elbow that is reducing the flow from the exchanger out into the exhaust. Pull the aft hose off the exchanger and (that goes through the p/s cooler up to the elbow) and make sure that water flows freely out of the outdrive. Stick a garden hose on, should be little backpressure. Chances are it is not your engine circulating pump, there is almost nothing to go wrong there.
 

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Re: Overheating at WOT. Not the usual solution....

No mention of the thermostat........has that been checked/replaced?
 

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Re: Overheating at WOT. Not the usual solution....

I worked on one that did the same thing and have found that these engines are very sensitive to total advance in timing. Check to make sure the timing is correct.
 

ChazzL

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Re: Overheating at WOT. Not the usual solution....

Thanks for the replies! (I've been unable to check in for a while).
Thermostat's been checked. I also pulled off a raw water hose and checked the gals per minute flow rate and it met specs.
I'll check the flow on the coolant system. I'm guessing my mechanic checked that, but you never know. It appears to be circulating well looking through the radiator cap.
I know he checked the timing. That still leaves carb lean conditions. I'm checking that next.
 

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Re: Overheating at WOT. Not the usual solution....

Yeah there could still be a restriction in the exhaust elbow, so that even with a good impeller, just not enough raw water is flowing through the system.
 

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Re: Overheating at WOT. Not the usual solution....

Yeah there could still be a restriction in the exhaust elbow, so that even with a good impeller, just not enough raw water is flowing through the system.

Ayuh,.... Good point Terry,... Good water comin' into the system, needs to be able to get Outa the system,...
 

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Re: Overheating at WOT. Not the usual solution....

And you will need to put a section of clear hose on the raw water side and then do a full throttle run. Guessing you`ll see bubbles then.
If you do ,the pump base gasket is damaged or the pump base is warped allowing it to suck in hot exaust gasses.Can test this theory by dropping the lower and putting a set of muffs on. pump base will start squirting water.
 
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