Padded vinyl ?

[daviscfad]

Hello all
I am restoring a 211 Liberator and it has a cuddy cabin.. My question to you guys is... I took down the old nasty carpet on the ceiling and on the sides of the hull... I am going to go back with a padded vinyl.. On the ceiling it will need to be seamed down the middle b/c it is wider than the fabric.. Do i need to sow a seam " seam the two pieces together" or put one side up at a time and fold it in the middle some how so it looks nice.. I am thinking the seam is going to look the best and be the easiest... Also i would like to know what kind of adhesive you use to install padded vinyl to the hull and in the headliner.. This is going to attach it self directly to the fiberglass no furring strips or anything to staple to.. Thanks for the responses

 

[tashasdaddy]

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sew it.

 

[daviscfad]

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yeah i was thinking that i should sew it but wasnt sure thats no big deal.. When you say 3m spray adhesive do you mean contact cement?

 

[fishrdan]

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(Edit: sheesh you guys are quick...)

A sewn seam will look a lot cleaner and stand the test of time better than trying to butt the 2 pieces of vinyl together.

I'm using spray contact cement on my current project and the vinyl is stuck down hard. I picked up 5 gallons of spray contact cement from an upholstery/foam supply shop for $50 and using a cheap $15 Harbor Freight gravity feed spray gun to shoot it, 60PSI going to the gun. The spray contact cement is great for large areas, I applied it to 2- 3' x 6' parts in 3-4 minutes. The cup gun works nice as you can vary the amount of glue being applied. Barely crack the gun so you can hit small areas then squeeze it wide open for when you want to go fast and cover a large area. I haven't noticed any overspray like you get with spray painting,,, but if you miss the part you are trying to apply the glue to, it can fly a good distance. Make sure nothing important is behind what you applying the contact cement to and don't spray up in the air. Don't ask (thankfully it was just a cooler and some boxes)

One you have the vinyl positioned and stuck down, go over every square inch with a laminate roller, this will bond the 2 layers of contact cement together.

 

[daviscfad]

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yeah i figured the contact cement was what to use ...

I picked up 5 gallons of spray contact cement from an upholstery/foam supply shop for $50

Man thats an awesome pick up i have done searchs all over the web looking for 5 gallon of contact cement and havent seen anything that cheap.. Mind picking me up one and shipping it to me I have seen gallon contact cement go for 25 in local harware or lowes stores

 

[daviscfad]

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3M Super 77 Multipurpose Spray Adhesive (Comes in 16 and 32 oz. spray cans ready to use.)

man i could see me buring through several cans of that.. I will check it out

 

[fishrdan]

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Yeah, $50 for 5 gallons was a smoking deal. I purchased it from Galaxy Foam in Las Vegas, NV. They have a web site, but don't have the contact cement listed, give them a ring and see if they can ship it. I looked at other websites and they sell it for $80+ for 5 gallons, but that's still a whole lot cheaper than the spray cans of adhesive if you need to cover a large area... Here's the stuff I'm using, writing off the can:

Dap Weldwood Contact Adhesive
Landau Top and Trim
HHR Solvent Type
Spray Grade
Industrial Grade

Spec's from Dap's website:

Offers up to 33% greater coverage than traditional products. Bond strength increases with age. Excellent chemical and water resistance. Ideal for applications such as automotive, marine, or aeronautical interiors including headliners, vinyl trim, dash coverings, door coverings, floor coverings, panel coverings, and upholstery. Ideal for bonding Landau tops constructed of non-penetrable fabric-backing.

BTW, I'm surprised at how far this stuff is going. I'm over 1/2 way through my project and have barely used 2.5 gallons so far. The project is a 18' Crestliner that I'm putting marine vinyl flooring on the hull sides, deck and all other unpainted surfaces. I ordered 44 sq yards of vinyl flooring for the project (20% fudge factor)...

 

[daviscfad]

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BTW, I'm surprised at how far this stuff is going. I'm over 1/2 way through my project and have barely used 2.5 gallons so far. The project is a 18' Crestliner that I'm putting marine vinyl flooring on the hull sides, deck and all other unpainted surfaces. I ordered 44 sq yards of vinyl flooring for the project (20% fudge factor)...

Sounds like a sweat deal!!! thanks for the info on the contact cement

 

[F14CRAZY]

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I don't mean to bring up old threads but I intend on doing something similar but making like 1/8'' plywood panels with padding/vinyl and attaching them inside the cabin

 

[mthieme]

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Not really, it covers a pretty good area. You will be surprised. Again, the trick is to apply a LIGHT coat to both sides.

I use this for temporary applications.
I don't know if I'd trust it on something permanent especially marine.
I have used 3M contact cement to apply vinyl directly against fiberglass.

 

[daviscfad]

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i would have made plywood pannel and all but i am having to do a ceilling that was once carpeted in my boat..