Pennzoil Semi-Synthetic

[NathanY]

Went to WalMart today to get some oil for my boat, I run QuickSilver oil, and they were out of it. So I got some Pennzoil Semi-Synthetic. <br /><br />1. Is this oil good?<br />2. Will it work ok in the VRO system?<br />3. Will it mix ok with the Quicksilver oil that is in the VRO tank?<br /><br />I have run Quicksilver in every boat that I have ever owned. I am very nervous about changing oil brands. I called every store in the area, and no one had the QuickSilver oil, and the marine places were closed when I realized I needed some more oil.

 

[JB]

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Outboard Non-repair

 

[roscoe]

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1 yes<br />2 yes<br />3 yes<br /><br />It is not synthetic, it is what is called hydro-cracked, or semi-synthetic. It is tc-3w rated and will mix with the oil in the vro.

 

[LubeDude]

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Originally posted by roscoe:<br /> 1 yes<br />2 yes<br />3 yes<br /><br />It is not synthetic, it is what is called hydro-cracked, or semi-synthetic.

This is not correct as per the information that I have. Hydrocracked is not refered to as Semi-synthetic.<br /><br />The information that I have is that the majority of the base oil is regular dino oil, [which could be hydrocracked] there is then blended into it a bit of synthetic. Knowone knows for sure what % that is. I think about 20% at best.<br /><br />As far as it being a good oil, its fine, and just as good or better than Quicksilver.

 

[roscoe]

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This is what I read somewhere (when I bought a gallon a few years ago) . I could be wrong. You are the LubeDude, so I will concede. <br /><br /> http://www.pennzoil.com/products/marine/xlf2cycle.html <br /><br />As a side note: I'm just about done with my gallon of Penn full syn. Smokes as much or more than the cheap oil in my motors.<br />The plugs stayed a little cleaner.<br /><br />Will be starting on the gallon of Amsoil in a week or so.<br />Picked it up at the regional farm supply store. They just started carrying it and had it buried in the farm machinery lube section, no where near the marine oils or sporting goods department. The staff said they didn't carry it. Then I showed them the weekly ad flyer. Anyway, it was on sale for $18.50 a gallon.

 

[BoatBuoy]

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Originally posted by roscoe:<br /> As a side note: I'm just about done with my gallon of Penn full syn.

Is that Penn full syn. corn oil?

 

[BillP]

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Gee Roscoe, do you know that Amsoil isn't TCW-3 certified? I'll bet you think it is, right?

 

[BoatBuoy]

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Mazola isn't either.

 

[roscoe]

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BoatBuoy, hmmm. confused now, I thought because it came in a yellow bottle that it was corn oil. Thats what grand papa told me back in '47. Maybe it is snake oil, not corn oil. <br /><br />BillP, yep, I realize that, but I'm gonna do it anyway. Why? Cause its made down the road from me, so that makes it good stuff.

 

[Bwalker]

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Most semi synthetic oils on the market today are polyisobutene and mineral oil based blends. The PIB replaces the high viscosity brite stock which provides for less smoke and carbon deposits.

 

[LubeDude]

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Originally posted by Ben Walker:<br /> Most semi synthetic oils on the market today are polyisobutene and mineral oil based blends. The PIB replaces the high viscosity brite stock which provides for less smoke and carbon deposits.

And when its hydroginated, it can and is used in cosmetics.

 

[NathanY]

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Sorry guys the bottle says Premium Plus Synthetic Blend. So will it mix with the Merc oil? will it work in VRO?

 

[khc1970]

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Been by Tohatsu dealer not to mix 2 stroke oil, best to run oild down to minimum in tank before putting new oil in.

 

[LubeDude]

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Originally posted by Nate Not in Arkansas:<br /> Sorry guys the bottle says Premium Plus Synthetic Blend. So will it mix with the Merc oil? will it work in VRO?

Just do it and go fishing, Not to worry, one of the TC-W3 requirements is that it be compatable with other oils. I honestly dont know of "ANY oils made today other than some Castor Bean oils for racing that cant be mixed.

 

[dajohnson53]

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Originally posted by Nate Not in Arkansas:<br /> Sorry guys the bottle says Premium Plus Synthetic Blend. So will it mix with the Merc oil? will it work in VRO?

All TCW3 oils are supposed to be fully compatable with one another - I believe this is part of the certification requirements.

 

[dajohnson53]

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Originally posted by roscoe:<br /> This is what I read somewhere (when I bought a gallon a few years ago) . I could be wrong. You are the LubeDude, so I will concede.

So if I change my handle to something like Oilyboy, you'll believe everything I say about oil? Kewil <br /><br />

Originally posted by roscoe:<br /> As a side note: I'm just about done with my gallon of Penn full syn. Smokes as much or more than the cheap oil in my motors.<br />The plugs stayed a little cleaner.<br /><br />Will be starting on the gallon of Amsoil in a week or so.

This is the same experience I had - Penn. full synthetic didn't make any noticable diffrence in performance or smoking. Frankly, I don't buy the cheapest oils (but plan to try a gallon soon, just for fun), and don't believe in the hype of more expensive is better. But I would gladly pay a few extra dollars per gallon if synthetic actually did smoke less and leave less crap in the water. I'm very interested to see if you see improvements in performance, smoking, or residue in the water with Amzoil - that would cause me to try a gallon. But if it's over $20 per, I wouldn't even think of it.

 

[LubeDude]

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I find it next to imposible to believe that you didnt have less smoking with Pennzoil full synthetic. Most everyone I have seen post on it says they had less smoke. It has been reformulated this year though so it depends on when you tried it. Amsoil is still oil and will leave a slick on the water just like any other oil will. I believe that it burns cleaner than Pennzoil though. <br /><br />Yes D. If you change your name to oilyboy, we will all believe everything you say. <br /><br />And Roscoe, I have been wrong before, and will concede if I see it in writing.

 

[Bwalker]

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I actually used Amsoil(i hate to admit) and it smoked next to nill and the plugs where spotless after 50 hours. I think its pretty good stuff although i worry abotu a ester based synthetics ability to protect against corrosion during the off season/periods of inactivity.

 

[dajohnson53]

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Originally posted by LubeDude:<br /> I find it next to imposible to believe that you didnt have less smoking with Pennzoil full synthetic. Most everyone I have seen post on it says they had less smoke. It has been reformulated this year though so it depends on when you tried it. Amsoil is still oil and will leave a slick on the water just like any other oil will. I believe that it burns cleaner than Pennzoil though. <br /><br />Yes D. If you change your name to oilyboy, we will all believe everything you say. <br /><br />And Roscoe, I have been wrong before, and will concede if I see it in writing.

Next to impossible, but not impossible! I was hoping for less smoke with the Pennzoil full synthetic, and that's why I paid the premium price for it, but really didn't see it. It would be worth the extra price if it did. I have two built in pre-mix tanks - at the time I think I was running either Quicksilver or John/Rude brand oil in one tank and the Pennzoil in the other. No apparent difference starting, operating or smoking - that I could see.<br /><br />I might try a gallon of Amzoil just for fun to see if it works better in this regard. Plug issues are a non-factor for me since I have absolutely no problems with plug fouling with any of the oils I've tried so far (A couple different OEM brands, Castrol and a couple of others, not the cheapest yet). Maybe what I should do is a Yin and Yang test - Amzoil in one tank and the cheapest Walmart oil in the other?<br /><br />By the way, just yankin' your chain about the Handle - I apprciate the information and give-and-take you post. I'll try not to be too oily in the future.