Plastic Peddle Boat Repair

samo_ott

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I just picked up this plastic peddle boat for $20 and it has cracks in it that need repair. I was wondering will fibreglass resin stick to it? I only have the poly right now and cloth but could go get epoxy if folks think it will be better. Or if not fibreglass, any other iideas as to repair it? And as the repairs are low down water will sit there. Comments? Opinions, ideas? Thanks all :)
 

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rayodunne

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Re: Plastic Peddle Boat Repair

Is that the one that was listed on kijiji for 50? I was gona get it nice buy!
As for repair I would take the top off and fiberglass the back side of the cracks then putty the cracks on the nice side or sorta nice side.
 

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Re: Plastic Peddle Boat Repair

Yep! That was it. You gotta act fast. :) It also needs a rudder but that's fasionable. So you're saying that the glass will stick to the plastic then? Poly or epoxy?
 

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Re: Plastic Peddle Boat Repair

There are plastic welding kits ..... depending on the type of plastic that might work. Duro also makes a plastic 2 part epoxy.
 

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Re: Plastic Peddle Boat Repair

I was wondering will fibreglass resin stick to it?

There's only 1 way to find out, mix up a batch of resin and apply it to an inconspicuous area of the boat ,,, I bet it peels right off.

I had a Coleman Crawdad that was made out of the same plastic and no glue, epoxy, silicone, caulk or resin that I could find would stick to the plastic, it always separated. However, roofing membrane (the stuff that's sticky black tar on one side and a plastic sheet on the other side) did stick, got it at Home Depot. On my old crawdad, there were several places where rocks and other debris wore holes through the hull, the roofing membrane was the only thing that would stick and seal it water tight.

Seeing that you probably don't want to be sitting and stepping directly on tar, you could apply a few layers of the roofing membrane to repair the cracked areas and then contact cement on some upholstery to cover the roofing membrane.

Honestly, there is really no good way (I found) to repair the cracks that will be strong enough to bond the plastic, yet remain flexible enough to move with the plastic. I considered plastic welding, but this was expensive and not a "sure thing" so I never looked into having it done.

Here's another idea, make fiberglass seat and foot wells that would completely cover the cracked area (kind of like a pan) and then stick these to the hull with roofing caulk. You would be sitting and stepping on the fiberglass parts, but the roofing caulk would seal the fiberglass to the plastic hull.

I wonder how 3M 5200 would stick?

Edit; The 2 hull sections are probably stapled together with black trim covering the staples. One of my friends had a plastic dingy that was constructed like this, it was impossible to separate the hull and get it back together,,, unless you have a HUGE stapler.
 
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Re: Plastic Peddle Boat Repair

As far as epoxy, it depends on what kind of poly it is; Some polys epoxy won't adhere to. I saw a pvc welding kit in a harbor freight flyer, might be worth a try.
 

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Re: Plastic Peddle Boat Repair

I would think that a few layers of fiberglass would do the trick, you could wax the area first, lay up the glass, clean up the glass and clean the wax off and then scuff up the glass and the plastic a bit and use a waterproof glue and repair it that way. I'm sure PL Premium would hold it forever.
 

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Re: Plastic Peddle Boat Repair

Is it PVC? Polyvinylchloride can be glued with glue made for plumbing. Plastic pipe glue. I'd try the "all type" glue. (PVC, CPVC or ABS)

Also, you might be able to use PVC to create a patch. Many storage containers that you buy are made from PVC, it might be possible to use a piece from something like that to create a patch.
 

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Re: Plastic Peddle Boat Repair

PVC glue needs a tight fit. No overlaying.
 

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Re: Plastic Peddle Boat Repair

How could one figure out what type of plastic it was? I have no idea what type it is!
 

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Re: Plastic Peddle Boat Repair

Poly adhere's REAL well to plastic... so well that uncured poly resin, will dissolve plastic. Learned that when one of my tools vanished into a can of the resin, all that was left of it was a rubber grip.

If it were me, I would plastic-weld it first, then cover in poly roven woving, then mat, then cloth, then gel coat. Of course, that's getting expensive for a little paddle boat.
 

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Re: Plastic Peddle Boat Repair

ok, how do I find out about plastic welding? I have never done it before. And there's no Harbour Freight's in Canada. Anyone know a local alternative. And how exactly does plastic welding work?
 

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Re: Plastic Peddle Boat Repair

Steve, i repaired one of those little bass boats that is similar. contacted the maker, found out it was the same stuff as coffee can lids. they recommended and corning or dow, caulk product, and cut the coffee can lid to fit the patch. use the caulk to glue it. it's never leaked since.
 

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Re: Plastic Peddle Boat Repair

That's funny, but the patch required is a lot bigger than a coffee can lid! (and what would I do with the coffee? Neither I or the wife drink it!)
 

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Re: Plastic Peddle Boat Repair

you can cut up tupperware also.
 

samo_ott

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Re: Plastic Peddle Boat Repair

Ooohhh... The wife has lotsa that! (Shhhhhhhhhhhhh!). Might be hard to form around curves though.

And what kind of corning or dow caulk would one use?
 

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Re: Plastic Peddle Boat Repair

Poly adhere's REAL well to plastic... so well that uncured poly resin, will dissolve plastic. Learned that when one of my tools vanished into a can of the resin, all that was left of it was a rubber grip.

If it were me, I would plastic-weld it first, then cover in poly roven woving, then mat, then cloth, then gel coat. Of course, that's getting expensive for a little paddle boat.

I gotta know; what plastic tool vanished?
 

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Re: Plastic Peddle Boat Repair

What about contact cement and rubber inner tube? Might that work?
 

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Re: Plastic Peddle Boat Repair

If it's the typical polyethelene plastic most items like this are made from, then neither epoxy or polyester will stick to it. Welding it will sort of work, but in a stressed area it may not hold up for long. There is away to to use fiberglass though, since resin won't stick to it, you can cover the entire seat with fiberglass (use it as a mold), pull it off, use a caulk like TD said and glue it back down. Use screws, rivets or toggle bolts to secure it in place.
 

samo_ott

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Re: Plastic Peddle Boat Repair

It is a stressed area (bottom of seat and back area) thus why I suggested the inner tube type tire stuff as it will flex... and I think contact cement will stick to just about anything... but I'm not too sure how water proof it is.
 
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