Please help ID this Primordial SternDrive

Peter_Crowl

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The boat is said to be 1959. The drive does not have any tilt - there's a big lever that you use to rotate it out of the water. Steering is via chain drive.

Anybody?
Anybody?
Buehler?

Peter
in Denver
 

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DBreskin

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Re: Please help ID this Primordial SternDrive

That must be the grandfather of all sterndrives!
I've never seen a boat with radiator cooling before; must be great in winter.

Sorry, no idea what it is but I'm interested to hear the answer.
 

JustJason

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whatever it is, it belongs in a museum. Hope you didn't pay any money for that heap with a rotten transom... Because it's going to cost you to landfill it.

It doesn't look like an old MC1 or aquadrive, so you can rule those out. Doesn't look like an OMC either. Could be a 1 off from many of the manufactors back in that day that tried and failed.
 

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That thing is way cool!!! Wish i had it. Museum collectable material for sure. I'd pay for that rig. Let me know what you want for it if you decide to get rid of it. :cool:
 

EricR

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Re: Please help ID this Primordial SternDrive

A friend in high school had a 19' Sea Fury with an Eaton "powerknot" or maybe it was spelled "Powernaut" drive- not sure of the era and I did not see it personally. I know they were an early producer of the stern drive.
 

poppasmurff

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Re: Please help ID this Primordial SternDrive

That looks alot like the sterndrive that Volvo introduced in the very early 1960's era, here's a picture (first one). But I belive EricR is right, it is an "Eaton Powernaut/Intersepter", I have put a picture of that in as well for you (second picture). Here is a webpage with a manual and service pack for these. If they are still there I couldn't tell you.http://www.fiberglassics.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=2862 Sorry I couldn't help more but you have an interesting piece of boating heritage there, good luck and please keep us posted.
 

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Peter_Crowl

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Re: Please help ID this Primordial SternDrive

That looks alot like the sterndrive that Volvo introduced in the very early 1960's era, here's a picture. Sorry I couldn't help more but you have an interesting piece of boating heritage there, good luck and please keep us posted.

Hmmm - don't think so. Mine does not tilt. You rotate it up out of the water by means of a large lever inside the transom. If you were looking at if from behind - it rotates like the hand on a clock.
 

Howard Sterndrive

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Re: Please help ID this Primordial SternDrive

Looks like a cross between MGW (Muncie Gear Works) with the fins, and Roylyn Seahawk with the rotation deal for trailering.
weird...
definitely a museum piece
 

JustJason

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Re: Please help ID this Primordial SternDrive

Its a damm shame someone mounted one of those foils on it.
I should start selling foils for trailers... Tell folks to mount them above their tires to create "aerodymanic lift" or something.

Somebody would buy it.
 

Peter_Crowl

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Re: Please help ID this Primordial SternDrive

Its a damm shame someone mounted one of those foils on it.
I should start selling foils for trailers... Tell folks to mount them above their tires to create "aerodymanic lift" or something.

Somebody would buy it.

I couldn't agree more! Boondoggle at best - Harmful at worst.

Ok - lots of good input - still searching. The boat has been identified... it's from plans by William D. Jackson http://www.dngoodchild.com/5181.htm
www.floatyourboat.info/jackson.html.

It's the Voyageur ... those who know believe it's probably the only one in existance. Can't say if that's a bad thing or a good thing :~)

The transom isn't rotten - what you see there is the fiberglass overlay peeling away from the plywood. The plywood is actually pretty solid.
What's odd is that it was originally an outboard design - a boat for slow cruising in shallow water. So why did he go with this V8 power plant and outdrive that doesn't tilt ... making slow cruising in shallow water difficult at best ... and which had to be expensive?

The whole thing is really well built for what I presume is an amateur job. In the cabin there's a head. There's a door on it that swings out and is also the door from the aft section to the cabin itself - depending on where you latch it. That door is square and true. There are other areas - such as the top - where the wood is sagging - but overall it's a marvelous piece from a time when Men had "Spare Time" to do things like "Carve This Barbeque from of a Slab of Solid Granite and Save Money"

I know that's true - my dad worked two jobs and built a house. I can't find my *** with both hands when it comes to having time to get things done.

P.
 

swihartart

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Re: Please help ID this Primordial SternDrive

Really cool boat!!!

I like the heading at the site for William Jackson "Boats for the Common Man".

People like me.

I think it's great that they modded the engine etc. It's that sort of ingenuity that makes America great.

Chain Drive....way cool...
 

Peter_Crowl

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Re: Please help ID this Primordial SternDrive

The chain is the steering mechanism - but strange nevertheless.
The V8 is out of place on this hull which was designed for outboard power and shallow running.
It's fascinating though....with a boat like this you can actually try to get inside the mind of a builder as opposed to a dealer :~)
 

maagee79

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Re: Please help ID this Primordial SternDrive

can u add some more pictures of the boat it is original.
 

Peter_Crowl

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Re: Please help ID this Primordial SternDrive

can u add some more pictures of the boat it is original.

Original is one way of putting it :~)
I like it - but it's an acquired taste. It was built from plans done by WIlliam Jackson in Science and Mechanics Magazine circa 1959
 

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Peter_Crowl

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Re: Please help ID this Primordial SternDrive

Identified!

Muncie FlexiDrive coupled to a 1954 Ford 239 - their first production OHV V8.
I dove into an assessment of the boat yesterday and found an interesting side advantage to the closed cooling system...there's a heater in the cabin that's connected to the coolong system of the motor!

The good news is that she's solid and can be restored!

Peter
in Denver

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