Potential serious issue - please help

Robertpel9

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Last night the 1995 Chris Craft Concept 18 i bought last week would not start. Hooked a meter up to it and it turns out i had a bad battery. The dealer was good and came down to my dock within 20 minutes with a new battery and we tested it to see if there was a draw on it (there was not) and if the alternator was giving it a charge like it should (It was)

While in the compartment we noticed a water leak from a hose. I do not know the name of the hose but it is a Volvo 4.3GS engine and if you go up the left side to the highest point of the engine assembly there is a large about 4" diameter hose that makes a 90 degreen turn down into the backside of the engine (this is on the other side of the engine as well). I assume it is something to do with exhaust but i am a real novice here. Anyway where the hose connects to the solid piece on the top of the engine there is a small leaking when the engine is running where the clamp is. The clamp was able to be tightened over a full turn but still has a little leak.

The dealer said it needs a new clamp but that the hose is near new and very pliable, etc. He said if he needs to replace both clamps and hose he will but he thinks it is just a clamp. He is going to meet me at the launch tonight to pull the boat out of the water and keep it for a day or two to go thru everything in the engine bay and ensure it is tight and correct. It only had 89 hours on it when i picked it up last week (I drive it a lot so it already has 97 now). I am sure some of this is from having a 13 year old boat with such low hours but i do not want to be ignorant as to what is really going on. He said it was fine to drive it last night so i did and as always it performed flawlessly.

What is this hose and what would cause that issue (Leak at the clamp). I checked the hose myself and it appears mint and has no structural deficiencies. The boat looks essentially brand new and i just want to be sure everything is right

Please advise,
thanks,
Robert
 

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Re: Potential serious issue - please help

Ayuh,....

It sounds like the Exhaust Hose......

Let your Dealer do His Job,....
It sounds like He's being More than accommodating about it....
 

Robertpel9

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Re: Potential serious issue - please help

Ayuh,....

It sounds like the Exhaust Hose......

Let your Dealer do His Job,....
It sounds like He's being More than accommodating about it....

I think it is an exhaust hose too, what are the ramification of it leaking ?? Can it cause serious engine damage, i just wonder how long it has been like this. It happens with the motor running and a little dribble out on the left side home right where the clamp for it meets the engine

Am i making a big deal out of nothing?
 

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Re: Potential serious issue - please help

Usually these exhaust hoses don't leak as long as the clamps are tight? plus it wouldn't hurt to have double hose clamps at each joint. These hoses are either standard 3", or 4", marine exhaust hose, depending on the application.
I find it hard to believe, considering the great shape the boat is in, but possibly there is a pinhole, or crack in the water cooled exhaust manifold underneath the hose, this can happen if it was rusted out some, or not winterized properly, and possibly cracked a little.
 

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Re: Potential serious issue - please help

Usually these exhaust hoses don't leak as long as the clamps are tight? plus it wouldn't hurt to have double hose clamps at each joint. These hoses are either standard 3", or 4", marine exhaust hose, depending on the application.
I find it hard to believe, considering the great shape the boat is in, but possibly there is a pinhole, or crack in the water cooled exhaust manifold underneath the hose, this can happen if it was rusted out some, or not winterized properly, and possibly cracked a little.

If that was the case how big of a deal is that. The clamp is in good shape like new and tight and it still gets thru, i do not see hwo replacing a clamp will fix this
 

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Re: Potential serious issue - please help

Im confused...so is it still leaking or not? :confused:

If it isnt leaking anymore, then there is no problem. You had a mechanic come and go through it and fix it, and if it is now fixed, there isnt a problem, and you should just now go and enjoy it and not worry about it.

aye...just re-read your post, he is coming tonight to look it over. I wouldnt worry about it. It will get fixed and it does sound as if it is just a hose clamp, which seems to happen often.
 
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Robertpel9

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Re: Potential serious issue - please help

Im confused...so is it still leaking or not? :confused:

If it isnt leaking anymore, then there is no problem. You had a mechanic come and go through it and fix it, and if it is now fixed, there isnt a problem, and you should just now go and enjoy it and not worry about it.

aye...just re-read your post, he is coming tonight to look it over. I wouldnt worry about it. It will get fixed and it does sound as if it is just a hose clamp, which seems to happen often.

If the clamp gets tight then how does it still leak. It is not like the clamp is rusted or broken, i am not understanding which is odd because this seems so simple.

The place i bought it is willing to do minor things but they are not going to go in and do any major work as it was bought "as is". I gues si am lucky they are even doing what they are doing but i do not want them BS'ing me.

How does a hose clamp is good condition that is tightened all the way allow a leak??
 

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Re: Potential serious issue - please help

Let the guy do his job and then reassess it. Does no good to worry a molehill into a mountain.
 

amynbill

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Re: Potential serious issue - please help

If the clamp gets tight then how does it still leak. It is not like the clamp is rusted or broken, i am not understanding which is odd because this seems so simple.

How does a hose clamp is good condition that is tightened all the way allow a leak??

Hose clamps are odd creatures...what seemingly looks like a perfect one while on the hose can actually have a defect in it when taken off...a little bend in it is all it takes sometimes. When I was doing sprinkler systems and doing pool installations as a youngster Ill never forget how many times we would switch out a seemingly perfect looking hose clamp and the leak would be gone. SOmetimes its also a matter of where on the hose it is clamped in relation to the pipe underneath.

Dont fret yet...let the guy do his thing, he seems more than reasonable so far and doesnt strike me as someone who is going to create some falsified reason for a leak. If this is the worst thing to happen in your world of boating, consider yourself more than lucky:)
 

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Re: Potential serious issue - please help

It is possible to overtighten a hose clamp and cause damage to the hose.
 

Gary H NC

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Re: Potential serious issue - please help

Sometimes pulling the hose off and cleaning the metal up solves the problem.A little corrosion will cause the hose not to seal.
Either way its no big deal.
What dealer are you using?
They sound like very fair people..:)
 

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Re: Potential serious issue - please help

yep ....let them do their job........

but as gary said....... no big deal
 

gstanton

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Re: Potential serious issue - please help

I WISH I had a marina/dealer that would what you have described for a minor fix! I agree... let him do his thing!
 

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Re: Potential serious issue - please help

We have the same engine. My exhaust is all double clamped. Not all hose clamps are created equal. The cheap ones are easy to strip out or bend and don't grip near as well as the better ones. The HD stainless ones are much nicer. They have to be checked (and sometimes tightened) typically once a season - with a nut driver (not a screw driver).

I agree with the others - sounds like you have a nice dealer. That's a big bonus. You could always ask him to double clamp your exhaust if it isn't already...
 

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Re: Potential serious issue - please help

It is already double clamped. He met me at the ramp tonight and trailed it back to his place, he said he is going to take both sides off, inspect them and put new clamps on.

I use the term dealer loosely, he owns a consignement shop for boats and RV's here on lake norman called playtime. It is the equivilent to buying a used car at a corner lot (I bought one of my mecedes at one of those too and it has been great). but anyway he seems to be standing by the sale and all he got was 10% of the 8500 i paid as it was not even his boat it was on consignment.

He sadi he will be all over the boat tomorrow and that the fact the boat was 13 years old with only 89 hours on it and that i have put almost 10 hours on it in a week we are bound to see little things and he is glad i am driving it hard now so he can bank all of them out and ensure we have a asolid boat. He said when i go to sell it in a year or two when i want something bigger he wants the opporitunity to sell it for me and that this condition of a chris craft will probably command near what i paid net year (we will see)

It iwll be interesting to see what he does,, i trust his to fix these little things, i wonder if he will gloss over a bigger item
 

fishmen111

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Re: Potential serious issue - please help

Wow...dang impressive guy! Best of luck.
 

5150abf

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Re: Potential serious issue - please help

You should buy this guy a REALLY nice dinner, you bought the boat "as is" so any problem you have after delivery is your problem, not his, that the guy is willing to help you out is really impressive.
 

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Re: Potential serious issue - please help

You should buy this guy a REALLY nice dinner, you bought the boat "as is" so any problem you have after delivery is your problem, not his, that the guy is willing to help you out is really impressive.

I'll second that. Don't worry about the leak, and buy your dealer a good dinner for helping out. It's amazing what a little good will does to keep that kind of support line open!

I bought my boat the same way, through a legit dealer on Dale Hollow Lake. Paid far less and got far more than anything I could find locally. He too has treated me very well over the last year that I've owned the boat by answering questions, and even talking to me on the phone ~6mo ago to make sure all was well!

I sent my guy a gift card for $50 to take his wife out to dinner for Christmas. Hopefully he'll still be selling boats when it's time to buy my next one!
 
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