Pro-line

jbrphil

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Hi,

I saw nice 2002 Pro-line 26 ft CC with twin merc 200 hp. Was wondering if Pro-Line is good company? I do not want to end up being stuck with bad one.

John
 

Jeep Man

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Being it's a 10 yr. old boat, condition is more important than brand. If it has been well cared for and maintained properly, then it's a good boat. If not, run away and run away fast.
 

Philster

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What type and year are the Mercs? This is important stuff that should be discussed.
 

The Rooster

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What type and year are the Mercs? This is important stuff that should be discussed.


The boats probably fine John. I would be more concerned about the shape of those motors. Back in the day, we owned a Proline 251 Walkaround. It was a great boat for us, held up well fishing out in the Gulf of Mexico. Good luck.
 

jbrphil

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Re: Pro-line

200 hp saltwater series Optimax, it is 2001. Twin motors.
 

jbrphil

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200 hp mercs saltwater optimax year 2001, 450 hours. Compression is all perfect but will recheck this weekend to see what they are. They were serviced last August.
 

Philster

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Do some research on early Optimax engines. Be warned that until 2002, Mercury was fighting numerous issues with Optimaxes. I walked from a deal years ago on 2001 Fountain with Optimaxes after research and seasoned boaters warned me. From my prior research:


When buying a used OptiMax engine, especially those made until the high-water mark of problems in 2002, it is important to verify that the engine has been upgraded in accordance with field service bulletins. Mercury has issued field service bulletins on the OptiMax engine to correct a number of problems.
The OptiMax engine has an engine control module (ECM) that can provide some information about the engine's operational history, but, unfortunately, this data is locked up in a proprietary format and can only be accessed by a proprietary code reader tool. This expensive tool, a DIGITAL DIAGNOSTIC TERMINAL (DDT) (P/N 91-823686A2) is generally only available to certified Mercury mechanics. You should consider locating a mechanic (who is independent of the seller or selling dealer) who can access the engine data and give you a print out. Our ask the seller to provide this as a condition of the sale, subject to your approval.

The OptiMax engine, when running properly, is reported to be a good engine with plenty of power.

According to the Mercury Service Manual for the Optimax 225-HP engine, the ECM performs the following functions:

-- Calculates the precise fuel and ignition timing requirements based on engine speed,
throttle position, manifold pressure and coolant temperature.
-- Controls fuel injectors for each cylinder, direct injectors for each cylinder and ignition
for each cylinder.
-- Controls all alarm horn and warning lamp functions.
-- Supplies tachometer signal to gauge.
-- Controls RPM limit function.
-- Monitors shift interrupt switch.
-- Records engine running information.

There is no mention of an exhaust gas sensor or a knock sensor. What this implies is that the ECM runs in "open-loop" mode. This means the engine is pre-programmed with a number of tables which determine the amount of fuel and ignition timing to be used based on input from the sensors (mentioned above), but that no mechanism of returning results of those settings (as would be provided from an exhaust gas sensor or a knock sensor) is employed.

The implication of an open-loop ECM is that the engine will run well if the pre-set fuel injection and ignition timing values are a good fit for your boat and its load. If your particular boat, motor, and propeller combination, in conjunction with the way you run your boat match up well with the stored values, you get good results. If your boat is particularly set up so that the engine loads are not in the anticipated regions, or if you run the engine at speeds where the designers did not anticipate you would operate the engine, then you may have problems.


Other notes: First generation lower units have been sources of criticism, too. 2002 was a major step forward for Optimax. Generally, before 2002, you need to start doing research and/or decide if you are comfortable with the engines' history.
 

Home Cookin'

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Re: Pro-line

I'd not worry about a proline hull, unless there are obvious neglect issues. It's a good solid mid-range boat.

Location is important--if it's a salt water boat below the Manson-Nixon line, I wouldn't worry at all. North and fresh, look for any obvious freeze or other water damage, but even then I'd bet on that hull.

As others said, the motor(s) are more important. That's really what you're buying.
 

jbrphil

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Great Info...I already asked mechanic to check motors to see if both is in good shape then will buy it. Many thanks to all of you! I am glad to join iboats!
 

lncoop

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Great Info...I already asked mechanic to check motors to see if both is in good shape then will buy it. Many thanks to all of you! I am glad to join iboats!

Welcome aboard jb. Did you read Philster's last post carefully? Don't know if simply making sure the motors are in good shape is sufficient. This case is unique, because a product with that many service bulletins can end up being a major (read expensive) headache down the road even if it has been cared for properly. I'm not saying you should pass, but I'd recommend three things. First, do a keyword search (optimax of course) over in the Merc section and see what comes up. Second, start a thread over there asking about any problems endemic to that motor. Don't consider the subject closed until you hear from faztbullet. PM him if he doesn't respond within a few days. If none of that scares you off (again, not necessarily saying it should), print the italicised section of Philster's post and take it with you to the mechanic. As he said, you need to verify that any service rendered necessary by any of the SBs was performed in accordance with them, otherwise you could end up buying two time bombs. Good luck.:cool:
 

robert graham

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We see lots of Pro-Line boats on the gulf coast being used by guides, commercial fishermen, clam boats, etc., so they're well-accepted by a lot of folks who should know. Of course, care and maintenance is a big factor....and those motors is another thing entirely! Check it out and don't buy it until you've done a thorough sea trial! Good Luck!:)
 
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