prop for a mercury 90

rcarr11111

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I need to put a ss prop on my 2004 mercury 90.<br />Which one should I use? It is going on a 18 ft basstracker v18 all fish. Most of the listing are for 13-1/4 x 15 all the way up to 25. Should I go 3 blade or 4? Will I have to buy new hub assembly. My aluminum one is bent up and I feel like the stainless will do better. I use in fresh and salt water.<br />Thanks,Randy
 

walleyehed

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Re: prop for a mercury 90

What was your max RPM with the aluminum(before it got bent up) with a normal load???
 

rcarr11111

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Re: prop for a mercury 90

Most of the time when speedo works,lol, I can run 40 or so and rpms is around 4000-4500.
 

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RPMs "around" 4000 - 4500 and speeds "around 40 or so" is not a good enough measure. You need to look at your existing prop and determine its diameter and pitch. Read the very first post on this forum to learn why these number are important. When you are asked for maximum wide open throttle rpm, its not what the manual says that's important. It's what the motor actually revs to with the prop thats installed is what's important. Prop diameter and more importantly pitch determines that. Too much pitch and the engine cannot reach is max RPM. Too little pitch and the engine will over-rev. So you see, without an accurate base-line to go by, we can't help you and any suggestions would be just a guess. I have a 75 Merc (two stroke) on a 17' Alumacraft Navigator and it runs a 19 pitch prop. I suspect a 19 pitch stainless three blade or 21 pitch aluminum would be a starting point.
 

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Re: prop for a mercury 90

Just wanted to let you know I just replaced my prop on my 95,90hp merc.I have a tracker prop18.When I got the boat it had a 23 pitch alum and rpms were about 4800(wrong prop)I was going to run it for a while until spring but a rock changed my mind!~I had a 19 pitch stainless yamaha prop from a boat I bought 18 years ago.I tried it on the merc the hub was about 1 16th short but a washer and lock washer fixed that.The yamaha prop works great,lifted the whole boat,like adding 50 hp,rpms about 5300,great hole shot and top end (50mph).
 

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I think Upinsmoke picked the right pitch for a seat of the pants answer (from me). I just propped out a 17' aluminum pad boat with an '02 90 and a 21 is a good number for me. Rpm's are a little over the ROM upper limit, but when I load it properly and when it warms up it will probably settle out where it belongs. Course gotta remember, the pad buys you probably 400 rpm's on alum boats of this size. Lightly loaded I'm getting 49 at 6200 rpm's which I expect to fall off to 45 at the upper limit of 5500 this summer.<br /><br />Keep in mind, the '0X 90 hp 3 cyl runs a 2.3:1 gear box which means that it will turn a higher pitched prop and do the same job as compared to an older 6 cyl 90 that ran right at a 2:1.<br /><br />HTH.<br /><br />Mark
 

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Texasmark,<br />The merc 90 you have has been the same since 94.<br /> Don't you think that running 6200 rpm on a motor that says WOT is 5250-5500 a little to much RPM?<br /><br />Rcarr11111 If this helps I have 17ft starcraft deep v with the same motor as you and I ran a merc veangence stainless 18 pitch. it would top out a about 5350-5400 rpm. I would say a 19 pitch would be a good place to start on that motor.
 

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TXMark is propped real close to what I would recommend...he understands you prop for a load, and you want the max RPM of the range WITH a load. Mark, I wouldn't change a thing....unless you want to lift the engine and play a little... :D <br />BTW, I have an 18ft superfisherman Starcraft with a 200 Rude...I can spin in the upper 6k range if I want.5750 Recommended but about 90% of it's 400+ hours this year were right at, or real close to 6k..these are 2-strokes, not cars...
 

bluewater19

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I understand these are 2 strokes and not cars.<br />I also understand you running faster than the WOT recomendations on older motors due to todays poor fuel. <br />I was told by my merc dealer that these newer(designed to run on todays crappy fuel) 3 cyl. motors don't like alot of RPM. Am I missing something or did merc just make WOT on these motors 5250-5500 to put extra load on these motors and make them wear out faster? I had my old motor set up to run right at 5400-5500 With two people gear and a cooler.<br /><br />P.S. I just replaced the motor on my superfisherman with a 1997 merc 125 Based on what you said in the starcraft forum. I can't wait for some good weather to try it out. I hope I don't wish I would have overpowered and used a 150.
 

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Thanks Walleye.<br /><br />Agree that this is a 2 cycle. The only things that move, can move, are the inlet reed valves which is nothing more than a thin sheet of metal, vibrating back and forth like when the piston sucks on it during the intake half stroke then turns it loose for for the compression phase, feeding fuel to the engine, and the rings expanding in the cylinders, on loopers with wedge shaped rings. <br /><br />Enerything else is tied tight on needle bearings which don't require much oil to stay slick. Not like 4 cycles with cams and push rods, and/or valve train drive chains and all.<br /><br />Back when I was a kid, we used to race the Kiekhaeffer Merc 25 hp 4 cyl -had a green clamshell cowling- and later the Mark 55 rated at 40 hp. We'd take a stock powerhead, put on a Merc racing lower unit with a tiny little high rake/pitch 2 blade prop, put it on a 13' hydroplane and go, baby go. To get on plane we squeezed the throttle and just shot water 50 feet behind the boat. Finally the prop would eat enough water to get the boat moving and next thing you know it was white spray mist and bye bye blackbird.<br /><br />You don't want to know how fast these engines were revving. <br /><br />I have a thought about engine ratings and rpm's are a part of the horsepower equation. So if a mfgr has a lineup of engines, he has to rate them at some hp, so that has to be done at a certain rpm. Otherwise the delivered/developed hp is more or less. <br /><br />Since he may make a 75hp and 90 from the same power head, all he has to do is increase the fuel supply which allows for more rpm's under the same load and baby you now have a larger engine.<br /><br />Take my 90. Same powerhead as the 75, with 85 cu in, but the 75 is rated at 5250 max and mine at 5500. They just put bigger jets in the carb to develop more power under the same load and get more rpm's.<br /><br />When's the last time you saw/heard of a 2 cycle outboard blowing up as a result of overrevving?<br /><br />I know they used to put overrev kill switches on engines, but that was based upon the lower unit kicking up and an anticipated overrev condition, not by actually measuring a certain rpm and shutting her down......had no way to do it back then before the high-tech electronics age. The last 2 engines I bought didn't have them so they must have figured it a waste of time.<br /><br />Oh well, enough boring you with my ramblings.<br /><br />Have a great holiday.<br /><br />Mark
 

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No on the small hydro's. That was 50 years ago.<br /><br />But I have had "rudes" and my MOT is not OMC. BTDT.<br /><br />Sorry,<br /><br />Mark
 

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Nothing to be sorry about...just wondered if you were still running any of the Hydros....I'll likely end up with a 44XS on a Bass foot anyway, so the OMC part is just an engine to run when ya don't want to work on anything.<br />50 years ago...Hummmmm...ever hear of a guy named Joe Michelini??? It was APBA Class F at that time...
 

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Was he French and made tires when he wasn't racing. Grin<br /><br />Mark
 

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Naw...if you ran Hydros in that era, you know who he is....grin back= ;)
 

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Well Ken,<br /><br />Haven't been up north for awhile. I left boating for about 10 years and am just not coming back as I am retired and farming doesn't take all my time.<br /><br />Problem with Texoma is that it is so huge, you need a huge boat to survive the wind -which blows constantly here-. I like smaller craft for several reasons and also they require a separate license to fish the lake since it's Tx-Ok territory.<br /><br />Butttttt I have taken some very nice stripers there on occasion, especially in the winter, even though getting there and back was a trying experience.<br /><br />Mark
 

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I spent a year and a half at Cedar Mills Marina, north of whitsboro (Gordonville), but something tells me you already "know" that....
 
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