Props N Things!!

walleyehed

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Hey all, Haven't been adding much lately but ya'll know life gets in the way sometimes..
I've recently sold several outboards, sold some boats and bought a few I wanted. In all of this I still play with many different prop designs and on a recent issue of my own, I have been playing with a 19' pro-v Lund with a 150 johnrude looper and in a week I've ran 22 different props on this thing and when it comes right down to the numbers, I still have yet to beat a Turbo1... Every boat I've set up in the last 12 years that, either I or the owner, was wanting "more"... we still ended up with that darn Turbo1.
The interesting thing about this Pro-V I just purchased is that the Transom measures 22" keel to top. someone finally realized the issues with a 20" shaft and made that sucker so you "couldn't" get it too low. the problem I've found (those of you who know me know I don't run any junk props) is that a good-all around aluminum blows out...a Hustler runs higher yet still blows out and for about 239 bucks+/- you can run this boat 7mph faster with the same pitch Turbo1?? I don't sell precision props anymore so I'm not working any deal here..I have run Fury, Tempest, Trophy plus AND minus and the numbers are still better with that std ole' Turbo1. I've ran every production prop in alum and SS and short of Jon Mazar at Mazco custom building a prop with multiple test-runs and re-works, I don't think the old gal can be beat on darn near every application I've found! Not everyone wants to run SS, I understand that and yet, "I don't understand that"...
Some of you know the story of the stock 1981, 82 and 83 200 crossflow I built from parts of many different engines just to see how much you could get out of that old design. Made 242hp at 6500rpm on the dyno (most said it wouldn't go 100 hrs) but I ran over 400 props on that girl and this summer I just blew through the 2000hr mark, 100% trouble-free.
I've smacked stumps, fallen trees, mud, sand bottom, grazed some rocks-hit one big enough it killed it at idle.. and yet it still has the same gears, same prop-shaft (dialed out less than .002-I check it every year) so.. whats the beef here??? Doesn't matter what prop you run, if you hit the nose of the gearcase it's gonna tear something up. Aluminum will not survive but it's not taking the load and they will still bend the prop shaft if it takes a blow mid-chord.
I'm at a point where I've enjoyed watching members grow and learn here, I've watched a VERY good friend build this empire at/of iboats and move on, I've watched the knowledge base grow wildly among a lot of the guys active here when I was a Mod. It's basically a huge book of knowledge here.
Sorry for the rant guys, just glad to BE alive and amongst ya all!!
 
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Bondo

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Sorry for the rant guys, just glad to BE alive and amongst ya all!!

Ayuh,.... There's a rant in there,..... I musta missed it,..... Awfully Glad yer still postin' too,...... ;) :)

You've been pretty Lucky whackin' stuff,....
Seems like everytime I touch bottom, I'm rebuildin' another drive,....

Luckily, I ain't done it in a long time,....

The Boss, 'n his clan keep me steppin', 'n fetchin' props though,...
I don't think anybody in the clan can boat past a rock without hittin' it,...
I've been rackin' my brain, tryin' to come up with uses for beat up, 'n broken props, the prop shop won't rebuild again,....
Here's one idea I came up with,....
Prop flower pots,....
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This one is tough to see, it's a 6 prop flower pot mobile, hangin' off an over sized fishin' pole, 'n the line waters the flowers,....
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Here's the base of the fishin' pole, you can see the reel is the water hook up,....
Notice, low to the right is an umbrella base I made outa a prop, 'n aluminum SBC flywheel,....
Poured lead into the prop barrel for ballast,...
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Great hearin' from ya again,....
 

GA_Boater

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Walleye - Glad you're back and still testing props. How many prop wrenches have you worn out swappin' out 400 props? LOL

I missed the rant, I just saw a catch-up post. :smile: Stick around, we can always use more prop experience.

Bondo - That's a cool flower pot hanger, right down to the eyelets and reel. :thumb: A heck of a better use for the beyond hope props than tossin' 'em in the trash or recycle bin.
 

Tail_Gunner

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:lol: Yes a T-1 is a go to prop in almost every application funny is it not how well one prop shine's thru time after time. Ive alway's thought it's the lifting properties the prop has never to much and just enough to get that boat dancing on it's tail so to speak...;)
 

Tail_Gunner

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:lol: Yes a T-1 is a go to prop in almost every application funny is it not how well one prop shine's thru time after time. Ive alway's thought it's the lifting properties the prop has never to much and just enough to get that boat dancing on it's tail so to speak...;)


Ken if you get back to this thread i have a question..unlike you guys i have unreal luck with props not even a sand bar scratch...well maybe a tweak but anyway i still have that baypro 2 and i added some hp to the engine. The short of it is... it turn's that prop to 5500 5700 these day's and last year i noticed it actually getting a dull finish or cavitation burn's. Not one thing has changed on the hull nor transducer nothing...well i may have bent the skeg a very tiny bit but where could this be coming from....simply wear and tear after 9 years...:lol: i had forgotten how long i owned that prop...from 20 to 55 its a absolute tractor on steriod's..or something like that.
 
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walleyehed

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I'd say you're getting some overall wear and the hardest pushing part of the prop (cup) takes the worst hit. Particulates in the water are abrasive enough to wear that down over time. I've got a Turbo1 that has around 1200hrs on it and went back to precision for rebuild after I stuck a new one on and seen another 2+ mph gain and a 100-150 rpm drop after looking back at the original numbers, so yeah, they do wear out but a good shop with a T1 Block can roll it right back to like new again.
If you send yours out for repair, make sure they have specific "baypro" pitch blocks. I know of a couple of shops that use Turbo blocks on Stiletto's and you can guess what happens there....normally the customer throws a fit about rpm drop until they realize they're running about 2-3mph faster than they ever did.
 

walleyehed

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And Bondo, now I have a plan for the 300 gallon tank full of damaged props out back!
 
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