Pull start 40-60hp

[rivvy]

Looking for a used motor in the 40-60hp range that weighs 200 lbs or less and is a manual start tiller model
I know Yamaha 2-strokes were available in manual start but these are hard to find in my area(Canada).Would like to know which years and models of O.M.C and Mercury can be made into manual tillers?Particularily Interested in the 3 cylinder outboards.

 

[blackhawk180]

Re: Pull start 40-60hp

Welcome to the forum!
I understand your desire for minimum weight but have you actually started a 60hp with a rope? Personally, I would rather paddle the darn boat.

 

[JimS123]

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I was going to say the same thing. Back in the day I had a 40 Evinrude with a manual for emergencies. One time the battery went dead and I could not start that darn thing. And back then I was a youngin with a lot more muscle power....LOL.

 

[gm280]

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OMG, I honestly don't think my back would allow me to pull start most any 40HP or larger O/B these days. Not sure I could when I was young and dumber either though!

 

[Frank Acampora]

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Oh, Nonsense! You can pull start big engines. (although 40-60 is considered midrange) I just wouldn't want to do it on a regular basis. here is a 125 That I pull start for emergency starting.

Since most people want engines above 9.9 with electric start, manufacturers will make what customers want. I believe you will have a difficult time finding a new engine in the size you want with pull start tiller. However, try looking at some Force 35s. They were a basic engine and I think some may have been made pull start/tiller

 

[anzomcik]

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For what it is worth I know Mariner made a 2 cylinder 2 stroke 40hp and 60hp. I owned the 40hp it was a great motor, it had a rope right out fo the top of the motor hood. I pulled it to see how it would go and it went fine. That 40 weighted in the ball park of 150 lbs, that's why I went with that motor.

I really wanted to find that 60hp 2cylinder mariner made, it weighted something like 180lbs (don't quote me) but it was ridiculously light for being a 60hp.

Those are a couple more options, in fact I recently seen that 40hp model for sale fairly local to myself it looked clean and was a tiller priced pretty dang good to. The add said short shaft, but that might not be correct. PM me if you want a link (no I am not the seller for any one who is thinking that)

 

[steelespike]

Re: Pull start 40-60hp

This is a tough assignment I'm not acquainted well enough to just pull motors out of my head and I think tough even for an expert.
modern 40 to 60hp outboards have been in production since about 1960 in 2,3 and 4 cylinder models.
as far as a tiller goes I believe they are available up to over 100 hp. Ive seen 115hp Evinrudes with tillers.
I can't speak for Mercs or what years or models may have tillers. Present day ,last 10 years, 40,50 and 60hp Evinrudes are about 240lbs.
I think the Mercs are about the same. If you go back to the 70s and 80s you can find 40s at about 120 lbs.
I know that at least some 60s & 70s 40 & 50 hp Mercs were available with a tiller and on some you could simply add a tiller.
I have a 88 Evinrude 50 tiller. I have a 65 Merc 500 tiller. and had a 77 Merc 50 I added a factory tiller to.
As you progress to newer and newer motors they start adding weight.If you go to the NADA price guide you will find
motor weights. I think dealers are probably the best bet for accurate manual start info.
While pull starting a 40 was fairly common I think pull starting anything over 40 could be a problem as the condition/
tune ages.

 

[gm280]

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Bubba, who are you calling old? I still have pretty good compression...:lol:

 

[H20Rat]

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for what its worth, people pull start 2 stroke snowmobile engines all the time, they range from 120 to 150+hp... (4 strokes on the other hand, they don't even come with pull cords!)

Anyway, i've pull started a 90hp before in a boat. It is certainly possible, but getting a decent position is by far the hardest thing. makes the hole process harder than it needs to be.

 

[blackhawk180]

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OK, not to sound wimpy (I'm old now)... I HAVE started a 90hp 2 stroke with a rope. Once. I drained the battery playing the stereo too long and had no choice. I am not a small man (6' 4. football player) Placed both feet on the transom and yanked for all I was worth, landing on the deck between the seats. It did start and there is no denying it can be done. Do I want to do that every time I use the boat? Not even when I was 16 years old.

 

[gm280]

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I do remember my 115HP inline six Mercury came with a pull start rope for emergencies. However, I never ever tried it. I did kind of laugh seeing the pull rope in the clear plastic package in the cowling jacket though and thinking,...yea right a pull rope... Usually the higher HP rated O/B's will have a lot more cylinders and moving parts. That means you have to over come the internal friction to make it turn, and also the compression(s) as well.

 

[gbrowne9]

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i thought i saw a merc 50hp tiller on toronto kijiji a while ago in the swap/ trade part.i think it was mid 80,s.

 

[K-2]

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115 HP, tiller steer, pull start, I took this pic last summer
These are not uncommon in Alaska. I don't know when Mercury quit making the 40HP 2 stroke, 3 cylinder Thunderbolt. That engine was easy to convert to rope/tiller.

 

[MH Hawker]

Re: Pull start 40-60hp

I have pull started a old 85 hp Johnson i once owned, but not very often.

 

[rivvy]

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Nice skiff K-2 love the water color too reminds me of some lakes in Alberta.Have an old deadskiff that I use on the river
that does okay with 20-30hp but with three guys and gear struggles.Been looking for 2-stroke Yamaha however these motors have not been imported for some time(emission regs.) so it's difficult to find one in good shape.Considering an older O.M.C. and refurbishing it as the parts are way cheaper-not sure about the tiller bits.What do guys in AK put on there
open boats?the ones who can't afford new four-strokes anyways?

 

[K-2]

Re: Pull start 40-60hp

Still available in this country are Evinrude 40-50&60 HP, 2 cylinder, 2 strokes with a tiller, I think they need a battery for starting.
Also they still sell a 75HP that is 3 cyl, 2 stroke, tiller available Are any new 2 strokes available in your country?
The majority of guys go with tiller/rope up to 30HP and then go with remote steering,electric start above 30HP.

 

[boarhog]

Re: Pull start 40-60hp

I just sold a 1999 Mercury 40hp three cylinder two stroke tiller with manual start, it was not hard to pull at all. It still weighed about 205lbs though!

 

[Whoopbass]

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I have an early 80's model 40hp Suzuki that is pull start. I wish it was electric start. A properly tuned 40-60 hp outboard should not be that hard to pull start although it might take 3-4 pulls to get it going first thing in the morning.

 

[kfa4303]

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Any of the Yamaha "Enduro", 2-stoke models would suit you nicely as well. They're the brand of choice for most native guides in the Caribbean and South America.