Quality of music

[CJY]

My son and I were on our way home from a basketball game last night (Go Bucks 9-0)and we began discussing music and the quality of it. He is 17 and even though we grew up during different musical era's, we listen to similar music. Zeppelin, Pink Floyd, Dylan, Skynyrd, to name a few. I also listen to Pearl Jam and other more recent groups such as Seether, he does not. <br /><br />My son switched the station from up to date gen. X station to a "classic rock" station with the exclamation of his preference for a higher quality of music. Our discussion was off and running. <br /><br />He plays guitar well, writes some of his own music and I have zero musical talent or ability. I only know what I think sounds good. He said that today's music, in his opinion, is not written for the love, but for the dollar instead. Makes sense, many groups do not write their own music today, they play music written for them, make a few million, then fade away. The other bands mentioned above have withstood the test of time.<br /><br />What do you think? Is the quality of music lacking today? Is technology driving out the need for skilled musicians? Just a few questions to ponder.

 

[jsfinn]

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I agree 100%. Some of todays music is ok, but it can't stand up to Led Zeppelin or Pink Floyd. There is emotion in that music.<br /><br />Country music is new to me. I used to hate it.. now I listen to it more than anything. You can find a meaning in most of it.

 

[Dave Abrahamson]

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Originally posted by jsfinn:<br /> Country music is new to me. I used to hate it.. now I listen to it more than anything. You can find a meaning in most of it.

You must mean the "NEW" country music...pretty much contemporary pop IMHO, Ole' Hank must be rolling over. Although some of it is really good...I'm just not sure you can classify it as country music. I'm not by any means a country music fan..just my humble observations.

 

[snapperbait]

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CJY.. Give Jr. a pat on the back from me.... <br /><br />I can't stand the "new country".. Most new music either... IMHO, It's 100% fake, no real feeling, mass produced, over-compressed and over-produced, pop culture garbage... The equivilant of being musically dead... Speaks volumes about our culture too... <br /><br />There's no "edge" in music anymore.. No roughness... No capturng of a moment...The music is too polished.. Anyone with a ear knows what i'm saying... <br /><br />I want to hear a cingular cymbal crash, not the interpretation of the very same cymbal crash produced in a loop by a computer, over, and over, and over, and over....... I want to hear the sounds of fingers, sliding over round-wound strings during chord changes... The "oopsys"... I want to hear the sound of the REAL VOICE, not the highly compressed version...<br /><br />Darn right, ol' Hank's rolling in his grave... Lot of others too...

 

[Limited-Time]

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There are some great groups out there if ya look (listen) for them. Of course their sounds IMO are reminiscent of the classic rockers but with a fresh twist. Try catching Creed, Three Doors Down, Nickel Back, Puddle of Mudd, or Train (to mention a few) if you get a chance. I think you’ll be surprised at the quality of their music.

 

[Dave Abrahamson]

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Try differentiating between Creed, Nickel Back, Puddle of Mudd...etc... yeesh I'm sounding more and more like a old fogey every day. Where went the originality of music. Seem like nowadays, music is like cars...all the new ones look/sound the same.<br />I'll admit, there are exceptions....just not that many

 

[mikeandronda]

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CJY, your son is a musician....diffrent breed of music listener then the avr. joe.....I am a guitarist of 19yrs and all my kids are musicians.....pretty good ones at that. The difference in opinions range quite a bit in my family but talent is a hard thing to dispute. Many bands today have talent but lack originality to be sure. Many bands today are different then anything before but for lack of better words....SUCK......Dave A. I believe you may have a point but I think limited-time is right as well.....talent wise all those bands he listed are great bands. Yes they are similar but in retrospect there are now so many bands out there and indie bands are being heard if you look there are probably so many bands with a new sound, fresh aproach and much talent. Today if your looking for great bands you might as well forget about radio. Longevity is a thing of the past Im afraid.....your right there are exceptions but not many...........By the way people have been saying this since before there was radio......most young kids cant believe we listened to the stuff we did.

 

[Baldguy]

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Originally posted by Dave Abrahamson:<br /> Try differentiating between Creed, Nickel Back, Puddle of Mudd...etc...

Right on!!!! My wife had the radio on the other day while I was painting the house. After a short while, I noticed that all the damn music on that station sounded the same AND the playlist was extremely short...but that's probably better left for another thread.

 

[JB]

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Huh??!!<br /><br />Are we talking about MUSIC or simply about audio performances. Tastes change. Young people need to show the "old folks" that they have their own thing.<br /><br />This begins to sound like the "greatest of all time" thread, with "all time" beginning when you were about 13.

 

[mikeandronda]

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Exzactly JB. There is a big difference from what you hear on the radio and what you hear live. Record labels decide what gets recorded and for that matter what gets sent to the radio stations. Its all about money and what will sell. Live Im pretty sure each of the abouve bands would be different enough.......The younger generations would not agree with the first post.....well most of them. Someday my kids will be wondering where all the "real" music went and how can these kids these days even call what the listen to music......it part of the circle of life

 

[one more cast]

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I used to like the Black Crows until I seen them live opening for ZZ Top. They totally sucked.

 

[Dave Abrahamson]

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Originally posted by mikeandronda:<br /> CJY,....diffrent breed of music listener then the avr. joe.....I am a guitarist of 19yrs.... Got my 1st guitar when I was about 8,(still got it), got a bunch now,playing 34 years or so..along with piano, drums, blah blah blah so I know where you're coming from.<br /><br /> might as well forget about radio.

Best advice I've heard in a while

 

[mikeandronda]

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On the flip side I could not stand Steve Vai.....thought he was just too much over the top with his extreme guitar solos....mind you Im a guitarist and it was just too much for me.....Saw him live and he and his band were amazing....tastful and awesome rolled into one big package......You never know what your gonna get live I guess.

 

[Fishin' Jeff]

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mike,

 

[Fishin' Jeff]

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Sorry, double post...<br />Ever heard of Trey Anastasio (sp)? He used to play with a band called Phish, but now is out on his own. A most amazing guitar player and show

 

[JB]

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I'll still take the four Bs: Beethoven, Bach, Brahms and Bernstein.

 

[JasonJ]

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Taste in music is too subjective to even discuss. We all feel the music we grew up with was the best ever. Being 36, my formative years was the 80s. For that reason, I could argue for the 80s music. Of course, while I am partial to 80s music, I am open to any era music. I am also fond of the usual suspects (Led Zep, Floyd, etc), and there is a few new artists that do a decent job. Unfortunately, what we hear now is guided by the dollar, so unless you come across a college station or indie station that will actually play music that is not the mainstream, you end up missing out on good music that is lurking out there.

 

[CJY]

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Jeff,<br /><br />My son is in to guitar players as well. He was originally, and still is hooked on Jimmy Page of course, Randy Rhoads(sp?) John Butler, Clapton, and most recently "Buckethead"? Buckethead does not have a great amount of mainstream material, but really is an amazing guitarist. How good(not popular, but technically good) is the guitarist from Linkin Park? This is a fairly popular band, but where is their talent level compared to Zeppelin, Cream, Skynyrd, Floyd, etc.?<br /><br />My own personal opinion is that Linkin Park has nowhere near the talent the aforementioned groups have, but none the less, they have a good, supportive fan base.

 

[heycods]

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Originally posted by Dave Abrahamson:<br />

Originally posted by jsfinn:<br /> Country music is new to me. I used to hate it.. now I listen to it more than anything. You can find a meaning in most of it.

You must mean the "NEW" country music...pretty much contemporary pop IMHO, Ole' Hank must be rolling over. Although some of it is really good...I'm just not sure you can classify it as country music. <br /><br /><br /> they didnt eat them beans and wear them jeans. JUST MY HUMBLE OPINION

 

[DaleT]

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IMO the problem isn't the "quality" of music. Its the system of record labels. There are huge a number of great muscians in every genre playing nightly in most cities. The problem is the never see the mainstream success that radio play brings. Sometimes you won't realize the abilities of a muscian until they break away from their mainstay groups. For example, some of you may recall a band from the mid 90's called Sponge. They had a decent run of hits but would not be called great by most people, especially for their emotion or playing. Some of the guys from that group went on to form a group called The Orbitsuns (a local "super" group to be honest) in an entirely different style and their abilities truely show in this venue. <br /> There are countless other groups that show just as much and more "quality" as well you just have to look for them. With the internet the access to these groups is so much better than before, you just need to look.<br />To compare eras is really an interesting challenge. Most players today can play the greats at young ages. Granted they may not have the feeling, but the have the technical abilities much earlier. If you really want to find good music look locally where the people aren't making careers out of it. And yes if you have local a symphony or chamber group go check it out, the playing is astounding for most if not all.