regulator?rectifier?

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hello,
I recently had my tach stop working I tested the wires at the tach and the voltage at the purple wire is 14.9volts.
the voltage at the grey wire is 14.9 volts as well I understand this wire should have a pulse voltage?
Am I looking at a rectifier problem?
The motor is a johnson 200 1995. the motor runs great and I tested the voltage with new batteries.the rectifier/regulator is a pricie part. from 180.00 to 275.00 depending where you buy one.
Thanks for any info.
 

Joe Reeves

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Re: regulator?rectifier?

(Testing Tachometer With Water Cooled Regulator/Rectifier)
(J. Reeves)

A quick check is to simply plug in a another new tachometer as a piece of test equipment. If the new tach works properly and the old tach didn't, obviously the old tach is faulty.... but usually boaters don't carry around a spare tach (see below).

A faulty rectifier wouldn't damage the tachometer, the tachometer simply wouldn't work. This is due to the fact that the tachometer operates off of the charging system and the rectifier converts AC voltage to DC voltage, enabling the charging system. A faulty rectifier disables the charging system, and the tachometer simply doesn't register.

However.... those water cooled regulator/rectifiers that are used on the 35 ampere charging systems (and some others) bring into play a different type problem, and as you've probably found out, they are really a pain to troubleshoot via the proper procedure. There's an easier way.

The tachometer sending/receiving setup operates off of the gray wire at the tachometer. That same gray wire exists at the engine wiring harness which is connected to the engine electrical terminal strip. You'll see that there is a gray wire leading from the regulator/rectifier to that terminal strip, and that there is another gray wire attached to it. That other gray wire is the wire leading to the tachometer which is the one you're looking for.

NOTE: For the later models that DO NOT incorporate a wiring terminal strip, splicing into the "Yellow Wire" mentioned will be necessary.

Remove that gray wire that leads to the tachometer. Now, find the two (2) yellow wires leading from the stator to that terminal strip. Hopefully one of them is either yellow/gray or is connected to a yellow/gray wire at the terminal strip. If so, connect the gray wire you removed previously to that yellow/gray terminal. Start the engine and check the tachometers operation, and if the tachometer operates as it should, then the regulator/rectifier is faulty and will require replacing. If the tachometer is still faulty, replace the tachometer.

If neither of the yellow wires from the stator is yellow/gray, and neither is attached to a yellow/gray wire, then attach that gray tachometer wire to either yellow stator wire, then the other yellow wire, checking the tachometer operation on both connections.

I've found this method to be a quick and efficient way of finding out which component is faulty.... the tachometer or the regulator/rectifier. It sounds drawn out but really only takes a very short time to run through. If the water cooled regulator/rectifier proves to be faulty, don't put off replacing it as they have been known to catch on fire with disastrous consequences.
 
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Re: regulator?rectifier?

Thank You Joe My motor doesn't have a terminal strip.
I did trace the yellow wires to the reg/rect they will have to cut and then re spliced to test and re hook up.
the area wher the wires are are under a cover at the rear top of my motor. man they stuff them in there!
I did however find a cut in the insulation on the gray wire and signs of heat on another wire under the cover.
I cleaned and liquid taped the exposed wire I am in the process of returning to the boat and do further testing.
I read your post in tachometers yesterday which I belive is the same as above.It was very helpful.( I printed it out)
I was conceren withthe voltage at the tach on the gray wire.being it was 14.9 I had just installed new batteries.
when I turn the ing sw on to start the motor the needle will jump and then return to 0.
 

Joe Reeves

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Re: regulator?rectifier?

Do not "cut" the yellow wire(s) thru, simply remove a portion of the insulation so that the gray tachometer wire can make contact with the yellow inner wire.

The 14.9v reading will not harm the tachometer, and the jump and drop to zero when turning the key to ON is the normal function of the tachometer.
 
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