Rejetting Carbs for Ethanol Use

glengold

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Straight from the Service Manual:

If gasohol is used with any regularity, Johnson and Evinrude recommend the carb jets be changed to provide a richer mixture to maintain good performance and prevent possible engine damage. See dealer for recommended rejetting according to your needs.

Being that 10% ethanol is in all the gas I use, what jets should be installed? How can I tell whats in there currently?

I ask in particular because I've been struggling with the motor dying when in idle. I've gone through the carbs, fixed an air leak in the fuel lines, found the timing advance not returning to the stop at idle, adjusted cable to fix.

Now the motor starts fine, fast idles on its own after a few bumps of the choke to get warmed up. I bring the throttle to neutral and bump in gear when the tach reads below a grand, and idles fine in forward around 1200. If i bring the throttle to neutral after starting it dies when RPM go below 800. I noticed when in forward idle the timing arm is about 1/4 inch off the stop. Should I adjust the stop to be in this location? So timing remains at that setting when in neutral.

I want this motor to idle under a grand so I can shift into gear w/o compromising the LU. So far the only way I've found is to be quick shifting into gear from fast idle. I recently bought a timing light, have yet to test idle timing, what should it be @???
 

Silvertip

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Re: Rejetting Carbs for Ethanol Use

Sounds like you need to perform a Link&Sync procedure which synchronizes throttle opening with ignition timing. This something you need the service manual for as it is simply too long to type here. As for carb jetting for E-10, I really don't feel that's necessary but if you want to burn more fuel go right ahead.
 

emdsapmgr

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Re: Rejetting Carbs for Ethanol Use

Would be helpful to know what year and what hp engine....
 

glengold

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Re: Rejetting Carbs for Ethanol Use

sorry i always forget that!!! 77553d 1977 55hp 2 cyl

I have a manual, I will go over the link and sync section and get back with any questions....
 

emdsapmgr

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Re: Rejetting Carbs for Ethanol Use

Folow Silvertip's advice. OMC did issue a fuel bulletin in 1986 when the U.S. fuels were going from low-lead to no-lead. The bulletin 2159 addressed crossflow engines from 60 hp up through the V6 line. The bulletin dealt with engine timing and fuel octane. There was no mention made of any changes required for OMC engines below 60 hp with the newer fuels.
 

glengold

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Re: Rejetting Carbs for Ethanol Use

Thanks for the clarification, the manual i have covers '73-'89 48hp-235hp models so that explains why its in there. Silvertip, the way fuel prices are headed I'm using the trolling motor as often as possible!!!!!!
 

geoffwga1

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Re: Rejetting Carbs for Ethanol Use

Sounds like you are using the Seloc or Clymer manual.Unfortunately they are often too generic and only give you half the story.Suggest you invest in the engine specific manual from "kencook.com or from ebay if you can find one,

Geoffwga1
 

jay_merrill

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Re: Rejetting Carbs for Ethanol Use

Whatever manual you are reading that in, isn't one for a 1977 OMC outboard.

Simply put, you don't need to "rejet" your motor and there probably aren't appropriate parts to do so, anyway.
 

Auxlarry

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Re: Rejetting Carbs for Ethanol Use

I have been running my '85 115hp for a lot of years, long before ethanol was introduced to the fuel. I have replaced the power head a few times (due to thousands of hours on each), all fuel realted components (especially rubber) but have never rejetted my carbs and have never noticed a reduction of power due to E10.
One of the things I don't have to worry about is fuel use or my fuel sitting very long in the tank. I burn far more fuel in my boat per week then I do my truck pulling it to the ramp. Keep your fuel fresh and you will not have any issues with E10 or E15 fuels.
 

Silvertip

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Re: Rejetting Carbs for Ethanol Use

And we in the midwest have used corn squeezin's since 1997 with few issues. The problem with ethanol blended fuel is when used initially in older engines the ethanol first does a thorough cleaning of the fuel system and the resulting debris clogs fuel filters and the carb jets and passages may also become clogged. This can hardly be blamed on the ethanol since the fuel system was likely neglected for years and the current problem would have occurred sooner or later anyway. As was mentioned, replace rubber parts with ethanol tolerant components and go boating. Use of a fuel system stabilizer like Stabil, SeaFoam, StarTron, or any of the other dozens of products is also recommended.
 

jay_merrill

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Re: Rejetting Carbs for Ethanol Use


From what I saw on the site you linked, you are dealing with someone who is having "members" provide bootlegged manuals from others. The Johnson-Evinrude manual listings look suspiciously like those published by folks like Seloc & Clymer. Many of us here, will tell you that such manuals provide very little value.
 

glengold

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Re: Rejetting Carbs for Ethanol Use

From what I saw on the site you linked, you are dealing with someone who is having "members" provide bootlegged manuals from others. The Johnson-Evinrude manual listings look suspiciously like those published by folks like Seloc & Clymer. Many of us here, will tell you that such manuals provide very little value.

I sure am glad that I didn't pay for the Aircraft manual then!!
 
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