Repowering: A string of motor questions!!

Flipv1983

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Hey guys my name's Phillip. I follow the forum but new to post questions. Here's my issue. I have a great 1985 60hp Johnson 2 cylinder. Sadly it's just not enough for my 16' flats boat. It takes way to long to jump up and plane unless I'm solo. Im sitting right around 67% of my boats 90hp max rating. Though it will get me to around 27mph w 2 200lb guys on board once I'm there I feel I'm not optimizing my performance. I have a little line of questions regarding these 80s motors that will guide me toward my ultimate goal of repowering.

1) I noticed a while back that the 60hp came in both 2 cylinder and 3 cylinder models. As w a car I would typically think more cylinders would equate to more torque. But I also realize that bore size could change w more pistons. So question one is: Would there be a noticeable difference between 2 60hp motors both w 2.42 gear foot running the same pitch prop..one w 2 cylinders and the other w 3 cylinders? And what differences if any?

2) I've been hunting down 70hp and 75hp Johnson/Evinrude motors for my repower. I noticed production stopped in 1988 on the 75hp models. I also noticed that the 75hp models weighed in at 40lb-50lb less then the 70hp models putting it around the same weight as a 50hp or 60hp. Can someone please explain why this is? In my mind I start thinking power to weight ratio is for the better but then I wonder does the 70hp have a different gear case making it heavier?

I think that's a good start to a good discussion. Feedback is being sought. Thank you! 😀
 

Bosunsmate

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Re: Repowering: A string of motor questions!!

Yep those bores on the johnson 2cyl are huge. Id say the three cylinder would have more consistent power output but doubt itd help your situation much. JMO
 
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Re: Repowering: A string of motor questions!!

question 1: 3 cylinders are better as theres 3 combustions for every turn of the motor verses 2 so its a smoother power delivery
 

Greg_E

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Re: Repowering: A string of motor questions!!

Why not put a 90 on it? The boat can handle it. The engine won't have to work as hard, and you will have more options when it comes time to buy.
 

JB

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Re: Repowering: A string of motor questions!!

The apparent weight difference is probably because one was offered with PT&T and the other wasn't. I have used JohnnyRude 70s on boats rated for 100HP and gotten quite satisfactory (to me) performance. Those triple loopers are much more efficient than even the 60 degree V4s. On my '66 Boston Whaler Sakonnet 16' I replaced a 'Rude 100 with the 70 and almost cut fuel usage by 40%.
 

Flipv1983

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Re: Repowering: A string of motor questions!!

JB,
Fuel efficiency is def something I'm paying close attention to w non-ethanol running $4.60 a gallon. Trying to keep $ skinny I'm avoiding anything 4 cylinder. As I think actually going up in HP will get me better fuel economy because I literally have to floor the motor WOT for a good 15 seconds to get on plane, and if I have a passenger they need to move to the bow to get there. If I'm going against current I may even have to rock the boat back and forth to get her up, taking upwards of 30 seconds. My top end is ok for what I do but the bottom end isnt and that's propped at 15 pitch @ 5520 rpm.

Check these specs out on the motors I've pulled. 1988, last year 75hp was produced. Any yr that produced 75hp you will see the same pattern in wt. It's quite intriguing.
70ELCC - wt= 240lb no PTT
70TLCC - wt= 257lb w PTT
75ECC - wt= 200lb no PTT
 
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Re: Repowering: A string of motor questions!!

boat is a pain to get on plane so the 57lb's for tilt and trim is worth every ounce even if it means buying a used tilt and trim and adding that to any motor that you buy.
 
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