Repowering Choice

[jasonbailey]

I am considering replacing my Chrysler 75HP OB with either a new Mercury 90HP or new Yamaha 90 HP 2 Stroke.

Mercury 90 HP Quote:
Motor $7,000 Installed
Controls $283
Prop $165
Cables $90
Total $7,538.00

Yamaha 90HP
$5,458.00 Installed
Controls $782.00
Prop: $165.00
Total: $6,405

This almost seems like a no brainer, but I'd rather keep my hard earned money here and pay American workers. I also like the Mercury dealer better, they have taken good care of my brother's rig. The local Yammie dealer is owned by Boaters World, which is owned by Ritz Camera. Ritz Camera is getting ready to file chapter 11. Mercury dealer is a Boston Whaler dealer and has been in business for many years.

 

[Bigprairie1]

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I'd go Yamaha for sure based not only on those numbers but the reputation of the two motors. If you really, really. really want to try to keep money in the U.S...then show the Yamaha price to the Merc Dealer and tell him to match it and the deal is his.
I'm no expert on these but I would say that the Yamaha would probably prove to be the better motor...if that plays into this at all for you.
My two bits.
BP

 

[Silvertip]

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In my view the Merc makes a better choice from a "grunt" standpoint. The merc is a 1.5L motor while the Yammy is 1140 CC. That's a lot of extra twist on the prop which translates directly to better hole shot and the ability to run more pitch and hence better top end. Or another way to look at it, it gives you much more tuning ability. Properly taken care of both of those motors will run a very long time but I need to give the nod to the Merc from a pure performance perspective.

 

[zach103]

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why not the etec?

 

[jasonbailey]

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why not the etec?

That's a good question. I'll hit up the local dealer tomorrow.

 

[jasonbailey]

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And, I forgot to mention. Merc is running an extended warranty special, 2 extra years for no extra charge. A five year warranty on the motor vs 3 from Yamaha.

 

[zach103]

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what kind of boat do you have.. whats the chrysler weigh?

 

[jasonbailey]

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Boat is 18.5' fiberglass, trihull runabout. Beam is just over 6' Boat was manufactured by Riveria, but they are long since defunct.

i have no idea what the weight is on the Chrysler. I can tell you, it is manual tilt and it is HEAVY. Looking forward to power tilt and trim....

 

[mthieme]

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I would choose the Merc because I like it better than the Yammy - and besides, it's your money! If you were contemplating a four stroke, the answer would be different hands down. I also know the dealer - Whaler World I believe. They have been very helpful to me in the past. With that said, I'm on Cockey Creek odff teh Magothy, half of the OBs are Yammys for some reason.

 

[npd4432]

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A while back I was looking at some 90hp motors, the yamaha is the lightest of them all which was going to sway my choice. But I just bought a new boat instead.

 

[jasonbailey]

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what kind of boat do you have.. whats the chrysler weigh?

According to the NADA website, the Chrysler weighs 262LBS. Mercury weighs 303.

 

[junior1113]

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evinrude yamaha merc

 

[Frank Acampora]

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Heresy! Heresy! Heresy!

Why go new? Why get rid of the Chrysler? For WAY less than 7000 you can put a Chrysler or Force 90, and if your hull will take it a 125. WAY LESS! Good running 1988-89 Force 125 with tilt/trim -- 1500 bucks max. --and everything bolts right up. No brainer!

Your manual tilt 75 weighs about 256 lb. Power tilt/trim adds another 20-30lb. A 90 weighs about the same and a 125 is just shy of 300lb.

That's my CHRYSLER in the avatar. I wouldn't have another engine on my boat.

 

[zach103]

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Evinrude 320-335#
Mercury 399#
Yamaha 261#

so i would go with either the yamaha or the e-tec. the merc seems like it woud be hard to plane.. . where did you get 303#? stick with a 2 stroke. their so much less confusing lol at least for me.. even my mechanic says he likes 2 strokes better.. but go to the dealers see if you can test em.. all that..

 

[jasonbailey]

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NADA's site had the motor listed as weighing 303. I just got off Merc's website and they have it listed as 375.

 

[jasonbailey]

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Heresy! Heresy! Heresy!

Why go new? Why get rid of the Chrysler? For WAY less than 7000 you can put a Chrysler or Force 90, and if your hull will take it a 125. WAY LESS! Good running 1988-89 Force 125 with tilt/trim -- 1500 bucks max. --and everything bolts right up. No brainer!

Your manual tilt 75 weighs about 256 lb. Power tilt/trim adds another 20-30lb. A 90 weighs about the same and a 125 is just shy of 300lb.

That's my CHRYSLER in the avatar. I wouldn't have another engine on my boat.

My Chrysler runs well. It has never stranded me and it has been very easy to work on. I'm an accountant and I've been able to do all the repairs and maintenance to it, so that says a lot about ease of maintaining. I will be kind of sad to see it go.

My 75 is manual tilt, getting tired of that. Also it's kind of on the smokey side and it drinks the gas. I know all outboards use a lot of fuel, but I think the Chrysler's use more than usual.

I'm also concerned about future parts availibility. My motor was manufactured in 1984. I'm close to Fairwinds Marina in Maryland and it has a fairly large amount of parts for it. But i see a day coming when I won't be able to get parts for an engine that was built over 25 years ago.

I do not like to buy used, unless I personally know who owned it before me and how it was used and maintained. My Dad raised me as don't buy somebody else's troubles. He's a mechanic, he hates working on his own stuff, he always buys new to avoid that. Kind of rubbed off a little on me.

I just got home from Iraq, and I have paid off all my bills, bought the wife some new furniture and I kind of want to splurge on a thank you to me present. The wife has greenlit me to buy a new boat if I wanted, but I'd have to finance it. I just spent 7.5 months in a hell hole paying off debt, don't want any new debt. This is the happy median. The hull is in excellent shape, I'll extend the life of it by many years with a new motor. And the best part of my boating experience will be not having a boat payment.

 

[zach103]

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NADA's site had the motor listed as weighing 303. I just got off Merc's website and they have it listed as 375.

still 40+ more than evinrudes and 114 more than yamaha