Right Wing Fear Radio

SoulWinner

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Right Wing Fear Radio :eek: oooooooo scary :( I don't know how one with the wisdom, knowlege and experience of PlyWoody can be so off base. Lets take a quick and simple (and I'm sure intellectually lazy) review.<br /><br />What the liberals say:<br />There is a vast right wing conspiracy against my husband.<br /><br />Conservative: Huh?<br /><br />The consrvatives want to starve your children, there is a lunch crisis in our schools!<br /><br />Conservative: What?<br /><br />The conservatives want to pollute the air and the water. There is an environmental crisis in America!<br /><br />Conservative: Where are they getting this stuff?<br /><br />The conservatives want to take medical benefits from senior citizens. There is a Medicare crisis in America!<br /><br />Conservative: Now wait a minute, I have grandparents too ya know?!?<br /><br />The conservatives want to cut social security. There is a social security CRISIS in America.<br /><br />Conservatives: What do you mean? We want to INCREASE spending on social security!<br /><br />And on and on :rolleyes: If the liberals want to increase spending on medicare by 10%, and the conservatives want to increase spending on medicare by 5%, then liberals say conservatives want to cut medicare by 5% :eek: Holy Cow says John Que Public who doesn't realize ,because he is intellectually lazy, that liberals are liars, deceivers of those who have been duped into thinking that talk radio is hate speech and fear mongering, so he of course votes democrat (wait, now who was supposed to be intellectually lazy?). What a shameless crok. Have enough self respect there PW to admit that it was the democrats that tried to scare the heck outta every segment of the population (particularly during the 1996 pres. elections) with crisis this and dreadful that. It was the democrats who ushered in the aged of hyphenated -Americans. Back in the 1980's, there were no African-, Asian-, Latino-, etc. Americans. Were all Americans, remember? And nobody was oppressed because they didn't have a continent hyphenated in front of their name. It is disrespectfull to this great nation to hyphenate your subsect of OUR population the same as a woman hyphenating her last name shows disregard for her husband. You can't be both baby. It is the democrats who shamelessly twist the truth (and hyphenate thier last names, come to think of it.....hmmmmmm) about goverment budgetary spending, and have a lock-stepping army of followers to their Fascist (look it up in the dictionary Plywoody, you will see that Bill Clinton was by definition the most Fascist president the US has elected in the past 100 years)political strucure to spread the dissinformation.<br /><br />Look at fact, the real name calling in the Hurricane post was begun by Plywoody, calling conservatives "intellectually lazy." (Call me crazy, but calling a spade a spade is NOT name calling) I know it seemed that way to you PW, because most people can't keep with the way liberals change the subject in a polically oriented argument everytime they are prooven to be wrong. Not to mention the fact that liberals are NOTORIOUS for not answereing point blank questions that they are asked. Ask a liberal what color the sky is and they will say "it's a tax cut for the rich." Explain to them in very kindergarten terms how the greatest percentage cut goes to middle class americans, and they will respond "What about the poor?!?" Explain to them that the poor don't pay any tax in the United States, as opposed to highly socialized nations, and they respond: "Blue?" Alas PlyWoody, you are a fine man, generous, caring...an all around good guy. Now feel free to attack me personally. Hint, go for my religion ;) Yeah thats it! No wait, my intellect!<br /><br />Love you PW :)
 

Ralph 123

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Great post SoulWinner! I have a million wisecracks I want to make but think I'll pass and just say I agree with you 100%<br /><br />I say the Libs trade in FUD - Fear, Uncertainty & Doubt. They are the true facists. <br /><br />The greatest accomplishment of that "movement" is to convince people they are the opposite of what they truly are.
 

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I rest my case.<br /><br />You would think at some point in time, all of these wonderful policies of the right would actually benefit someone at some point in time.<br /><br />What we have are all time high deficits, interest rates that are increasing, a loss of over 3 million jobs over just the last couple of years, to mention just a few, and a few rich people that are richer yet.<br /><br />Even Kenny Boy had to sell his multimillion dollar house in Colorado at a loss. It was a tragedy.<br /><br />I'm not sure we can stand any more of these wonderful conservative policies, and I do feel bad that my kids are going to have to pay all of this off at some point in time.<br /><br />You have to hand it to these folks on the radio though. They have done a superb job at deflecting blame from where it belongs.
 

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I HATE POLITICS!!!!!! :mad: Get a new topic for crying out loud!<br /><br />I'm a not so "liberal" Democrat who's obviously fallen into a nest of right wing, conservative, repbulicans, and I can't sit quiet anymore... <br /><br />So, I suppose then that when a Democrat is in the White house the conservatives don't try to scare the crap out of the country, huh??? Yeah Right... Sure Mack, Sure... I believe ya... <insert sarcasm here> :rolleyes: <br /><br /> Talk about dis-information... <br /><br />Let me spell it out for you all... BOTH conservatives and liberals are completely and totally full of crap... If they'd get over their ego's, maybe, just maybe, something might get done...<br /><br />This democrat calls it the way he sees it... Both sides have some good points, unfortunately our country is a total mess thanks all this silly little "out ta get ya" bickering between the far right wackos and far left wackos... Alas, the little guy (me) who tries to call it down the middle gets dumped on by both sides... <br /><br />Oh yeah, one more thing... I'm an Atheist too... Wanna debate Creation vs. Evolution?
 

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MICHAEL SAVAGE FOR PRESIDENT!!!<br /><br /> :) :) :) :) :D :D <br /><br />H.
 

SoulWinner

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Gee Whiz PW, are you for real? I don't see any truth to your post, and truth is something I highly value, a whole ot more correct spelling :D . I don't even see signs of reality filtering through your post. High deficites???? The only time high deficites hurt the US economy was when Bill Clinton promised the middle class a tax cut(In his 19991-92 campaign) and kept his promise (read LIE) by pushing through the largest, most sweeping tax increase in the history of the planet. I tell you what, to save face here, name me one country, just ONE that taxed it's self into prosperity. Go ahead PW, just One. Yeah, thought so. <br />Right, so economics 101 here. President Carter's slow economy was rescued when Reagan did what FDR sort of did during the depression. He got the economy stimulated via government spending and reducing the tax burden. Government spending pays people to do stuff. Increased gov. spending pays more people more money who spend more. Reducing the tax burden from a top marginal rate in the 70% range to the 30% range gave the whole population a pay raise. This accomplished two things. First, by cutting taxes, the economy was stimulated because people had more money to spend, so guess what..... they spent it! How 'bout that? This ment that there was an increased demand in goods and services across the board, creating a bunch of jobs. Unemployment fell, more people were working, the tax base grew and .......and.......get ready for this.......and....... the federal revenue INCREASED! Yes, a tax relief measure ACTUALLY resulted in an increase in federal revenue. WOW. A so called "policy of the right" that was first implemented and prooven by WHO? Come now Plywoody, you know this one.....who did it first?????? John F Kennedy....thats who. Man, this is easier than I expected. So, jump forward from from JFK to Reagan, he gets the economy going, huge growth, the highest growth of the US economy in history, and what happens? Well, we all remember the "no new taxes, read my lips" thing from Bush SR. right? The tax increase of 1990-91 was written by democrats and forced into law by democrats who controlled the senate and house and refused to pass republican bills unless enough repulicans voted for the tax increase. Then, when the tax increase was passed, the same democrats who wrote the bill were in front of the camera lambasting Bush for the "read my lips"comment!!!! These lovely people are UNBELIEVABLE! Those are the tactics of your beloved democrats.... those are their policies that have failed the american public, the american tax payer, the poor Americans that have been put in a postion of believing they can vote themselves a wellfare increase by voting democrate.<br /><br />Interest rates are going up? Are you serious......why just a few weeks ago they were cut by....oh what was it, a quarter percent? No, I think it was a half a percent. And even if the fed raised, which they can't do now for reasons you would know if you had a firm understanding of fundamental macro economics, rates are currently lower than they have been in the past fiftey years, during more than fourty of which the democrats were in controlof the House, Senate or BOTH?!?!? I am nigh on to being flumoxed here. Do you always make statements that have no merit, no point and based entirely upon misinformation when speaking in realm of politics???<br /><br />A few rich people that get richer yet?? Who. Name one. Name just one? Check with the IRS PW, the more money you make, the LESS tax relief you recieve. How hard is it to understand that the top marginal bracket gets the smallest reduction? What do I need to do, send smoke signals?<br /><br />And the "People on the radio," what do they do. Why are people leaving network national news in droves and listening to talk radio instead? Because now there is something to hear besides democrat party line demogogery(sp?). Good hard working Americans are TIRED of hearing about how terrible America is. We are sick of hearing that we are cause of the Earth's problems, (Did you read AlGores book, "Earth in Balance"? He is completely insane if he is serious about anything written therein) that because we constitute x of the global population , yet we consume y percent global GDP we are bad and the cause of starvation in Africa. Well mister liberal, how much money have you send to Africa? I send almost ten percent of my GROSS income overseas. What do you do beside demogog, fear monger and whine and complain????? Hmmmmmm? I'm listening.<br /><br />And as far as your kids paying off the deficit, well, using logic, that would make your kids the richest kids in the world wouldn't it? I mean, if your tots can singlehandedly pay off all that, can I bum bread off the little buggers?When Clinton proclaimed to have led America to a blalnced budget and federal revenue excess, did he start paying off dificits? No. The democrats clamored to see who could spend it first?!?!? What a bunch those guys are. <br /><br />Do you guys remember when Bill Clinton had the kids in the Arkansas elementry school hold a bake sale, and send the money to Washington to help pay off the deficite because of the deificite CRISIS :eek: ? It would be funny if it weren't so tragic. Hillary gets $8mil advance on her book, and she and Bill are sueing to get the taxpayers to pay for $1.8 mil in court costs. Yep, they really CARE about the american public. Sure, they feel our PAIN.....because they caused so much of it.<br /><br />Back to economics. When Bill pushed through his huge........tax increase ;) what he in effect did was to sucker punch the economy, which was going strong from the Reagan era, and still building steam. When his tax increase went into "RETRO-ACTIVE" effect, the one that was promised to be a middle class tax cut? that one? remember that one?????, it took money out of the taxpayers pocket and sent it straight to Washington. When the populace of the country is faced with a Nationwide paycut, they spend less. Since those with more money who were in the higher tax brackets got the highest tax increase, those who spend more, paid the highest price and the sector of the economy the contributed the most to both federal revenue and national purchaseing (that would be the middle class to upper mid) production of goods and services had to be reduced. <br /><br />You see , less money to spend on goods and services means that fewer goods and services are purchased, which means fewer goods and services are produced, which leads to a shrinking workforce, which means fewer tax payers, reduced federal revenue, increaded federal burden to pay unemployment, the economy slows down, and you get what Bush Jr. had when he was elected, a recession. <br /><br />During Clintons final economic briefing in the White House he was told that the economic growth had slowed to less than 1% per year! And since he recieved regular briefings he knew what the trend was, and when the economy started to decline. It started in 1994 when his tax increase was in full effect. It ain't rocket science Ply. Everyone knows that it was Greenspan who kept the economy afloat during the 1990's. Why else would rates decline if the economy was as strong as Clinton said it was? Think about that for a second.... Why do rates drop? They drop in order stimulate the ecomony. So why did they drop during the 90's? Because Clintons tax increase was strangleing the economy. <br /><br />Now face it. Countries with revenue deficits that owe the US money are not worried that we might come to collect and collapse thier economies, now are they. So why are you so scared of deficites? Do you really think the Fed will default on bonds? If thats not it, spell it out for me. Why is a federal deficite so terrifying, what will it really do to your kids? I want to know, because I must be missing something here. Explain yourself wood, I think everyone here should know why we too should fear deficites. <br /><br />I have taken you on point for point. The ball is in your court. It is time for "counter point" and none of that conservative intelectual laziness niether. :D <br /><br />With Love and Respect
 

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You would think at some point in time, all of these wonderful policies of the right would actually benefit someone at some point in time.<br /><br />What we have are all time high deficits, interest rates that are increasing, a loss of over 3 million jobs over just the last couple of years, to mention just a few, and a few rich people that are richer yet.
Scare tactics as always. Pure and simple. The sky is falling help! Help! Help! No rational behind it. JUST FEAR Mongoring as usual!!!!<br /><br />What a bunch of total crap. Thank God you don't make a living in economics you'd be living in a hole somewhere.<br /><br />Let's talk abot deficits for a moment. It's ok, and even smart to run deficits during recesions to prime the economic pump. Deficts per se are not bad. They are bad when the ecomony is doing well and the government is in the public dedt markets driving up prices by competeing for money. Now I don't know what country your living in right now but the debt markets are EMPTY the gov has little competition for investors becuase no corps are borrowing for expansion.<br /><br />You run a deficit during hard times and pay it off in inflated dollars later when the economy and revenues grow.<br /><br />Clinton was lucky enough to spend a peace dividened he had nothing to do with creating. in fact it was created by the deficits of the Reagan area. He was also lucky to be in the right place at the right time as the technology cycle changed and companies scrambed to rebuild their infastructures (Y2K, relational dtabases, ERP systems, servers, ad the net to name a few.) And let's not forget Clinton was firmly held in check by a Rebulican congress.<br /><br />So wake up, have a cup of coffee and get your facts straight. You're living in the greatest nation man has ever created and it was BUILT ON THE POLICIES AND PHILOSOPHIES YOU SO DESPISE!
 

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About this:<br /><br />Let me spell it out for you all... BOTH conservatives and liberals are completely and totally full of crap... If they'd get over their ego's, maybe, just maybe, something might get done...<br /><br />tell me, how is a politician gonna get rid of an ego? :D
 

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How is a politician gonna get rid of an ego? I wish I new... :confused:
 

Ralph 123

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It's a case of the lesser of two evils. I also think there are people in public service for the right reasons although they sometimes have to be reminded of it.
 

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damnn! hey, next time I Get into a political argument, it may be good to go with God, but I want SoulWinner on my side!!!<br /><br />several years ago Rush left philly FM airwaves, he may be on AM but I dont care for that medium, may as well have a whisker crystal set
 

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How does a politician get rid of an ego?<br />I've seen it done.<br />Without mentioning names I was present when a politician's child was rescued alive by the emergency services. They were totally funded by the government then. He praised the heros of the hour and asked if they needed anything he could provide. The senior fireman stared him in the face and asked him to keep the funding level topped up so they never needed to go without equipment. That politician was so humble he made friends that day. He's still around and doing OK by my book, but it took an emergency where he had no control over the outcome to make him see the real world!<br />Ross
 

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snapperbait said;<br />"BOTH conservatives and liberals are completely and totally full of crap" <br /><br />And I'm 100% in agreement. However, it's painfully obvious that the left has done more damage to the moral fiber of the country. Stupid political correctness, reinterpreting the Constitution and social experimentation has been thier agenda. <br />The left spends more time meddling in my wallet and my basic freedoms.<br /><br />snapperbait, it doesn't matter to me where you stand on religion or politics, as long as sound reason and common sense is used. <br />However, it would be far removed from conservative thought that would judge it fine that an 11 or 12 year old child would be allowed to have an abortion without her parents consent.<br />This is where the far left and its judicial appointee's are comfortable to take us.<br />Even with objectivetivity, this is far more scary then Ashcroft's so called "Patriot Act" that slams the Constitution so hard.<br /><br />The leftists are pretty scary to me. <br />Economy, deficiets, Kenny boy doesn't mean squat to me if I can't have my beloved Constitution, free thought, the choice to take care of my own elderly parents, my own health care, or the oportunity to raise my own granchild WITHOUT big brother!<br /><br />Yeah, plywoody's pretty scary too. He'll go on and on about the lost jobs. Quote you word for word from Tom Daschles play book. But he's to lazy to learn that most of the lost jobs were from the travel (airlines, etc.)and entertainment (Disneyland, etc.)industrys and the support businesses for them. These jobs were the hardest hit that were directly a result of 9/11.<br /><br /> Yet here, he'll go on to say; <br /> http://www.iboats.com/cgi-bin/ubb/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=20;t=001515 <br />"Been busy moving cross country, setting up a new domicile, along with getting a new job up and running.<br />Getting two mills going, one in Canada and one in the USA--employing 35 Canucks and 40 Americans, that have been down for three years, is a time consuming task, I am afraid."<br /><br />I'd just as soon plywoody will rest his case. However, he'll dismiss my post as being not understandable. Or accuse me of someting he does regularly. And don't forget the constant party line rhetoric. Maybe a little saracasm. <br />Should he reply or not, it'll be totally predictable. :rolleyes:
 

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Way to go Soulwinner...you ol "*****-head"!<br /><br /> Snapperbait, If you have an opinion and you attempt to sway/teach it to others...then you and I are all politicians. Like it or not we all engage in politics everyday with our wives, children, workplaces, churches, etc. For good or bad, were all selling something... since the begining of time. To avoid it intentionally is like trying to sail the ocean without a sail taking every wave without a means drive thru or avoid it.<br /><br /> There are alot of conservatives in office, that are not conservatives and vise versa. <br /><br /> It is up to us, we the people, to educate ourselves (i.e. by reviewing all news forums available especially the liberal media) of the politcal arguments and vote to influence them on the local and national levels.<br /> <br />I have a peeve when folks make a statement that "all politcians are liers or full of crap".<br /><br />Thats a cop-out for people who wont to or can't participate in in the debate because they hav not been paying attention to begin with. Since they can't make an educated guess on the issue at hand they claim both sides are wrong. Now thats lazy. Unfortunately, because so much of the American public is likewise, it is a popular slogan among alot of folks. I only hope that they dont vote. If they do they tend to submit to the liberal main stream media because that is the only opinion/side they think is legit. <br /><br />Soulwinner listed what I believe to be fact after fact. If anyone can challage it, I would like to hear their opinion based on real events , not some mantra/recording like "interest rates are going up"?????? LOL.<br /><br />Somebodys lying...Its up to us to find out who and hold them accountable.
 

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Please raise your hand if you would have liked to see Al Gore as president now.................. What...... no hands.........imagine that. Can you imagine this joke of a person dealing with the 9/11 tragedy. Thank God Mr. Bush was elected.<br /><br />I hate these political discussions, but I just had to chime in. I just received a check from the government for $800.00 for tax relief, $400.00 per child. Isn't that wierd, this Republican President kept his word, maybe the Democrats can learn something,.............nah, probably not.<br /><br />Now, didn't this piece of crap actor Alec Baldwin, publically say he would move out of this country if George Bush was elected? Why is he still around?............i'll tell you why, because this is the best country in the world......Period.
 

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YES! :eek: I raise my hand... :eek: I would like to see Al Gore as president, RIGHT NOW!
 

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Al Gore's reponse to 9/11 would have been...<br /><br />Well, at least those ugly buildings up there in NYC are gone, and it didn't cost the taxpayers of this great country anything to take them down.<br /><br />Now we can go look for those who did it, and once we find them, we'll apply for extradition to the U.S., so they can stand on trial here.<br /><br />I'll call Saddam Hussain, and see if he can help us find the culprits.<br /><br />I don't know who this Usama Bin Laden is, but maybe he can help us too.<br /><br />Have no fear American Citizens, I'll send $20 to NY to help them clean up that big mess they made up there.<br /><br />Boy I hate those tall buildings!<br /><br />Their nothing like those 6 story skyscrapers I have back in my home state, where everyone inside would have been able to evacuate in less than 10 minutes!<br /><br />So my fellow Americans, lets all just sit down and figure where we'll go from here.<br /><br />Have patience, I'll come up with something by the end of my first term in the White House, this way I'll have something to campaign on in the next election.<br /><br />Don't worry, even if we can't figure something out, at least the next election won't be so close.<br /><br />Kenny
 

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Was snapper serious? Guess i'll leave this thread alone, before I pizz someone else off.
 
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