runs poorly on start after 2 min smoothes out??

billybaja

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Hi, I have a 140 johson not sure of exact year but was told mid 80`s ,nothing matches on motor, the lower half is a 1981 according to the numbers on the transom bracket white in color and info from the po the power head is approx.1984-1986 black in color according to the po who said he rebuilt it but had to use that block because the original block had too much damage , anyway my problem is that when first starting it start right up but run`s poorly after a few minutes (2min approx) it smoothes right out and runs well no problem starting or restarting.. compression is 118-120 in all cyl. fuel is new ,carbs are spotless wires are new as plugs are also..I have not tried it in the water yet weather was to windy, but running it on the muffs I pulled the plugs after running and noticed cyl 1 and cyl 2 were a little darker than 3&4 .. All cyl are fireing pulled off wire while running and can hear and feel the difference..and temperture is cool have guage and warning buzzer all good,:confused: not sure where or what is causeing this any ideas or suggestions would be appreciated Thanks in adsvance Bill :confused:
 

marinemech1

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Re: runs poorly on start after 2 min smoothes out??

post pictures of block wiring to rear of motor so we can try to figure out what you got there.
Wayne
 

billybaja

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Re: runs poorly on start after 2 min smoothes out??

ok thanks ,gonna need my son to do that in the am I am not to good with the picture posting ,Thanks check that tom.. Bill
 

ezeke

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Re: runs poorly on start after 2 min smoothes out??

1982 to 1984 crossflow.

The welch plug on the top of the starboard cylinder bank should have some numbers - what are they?
 

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billybaja

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Re: runs poorly on start after 2 min smoothes out??

ok these are the numbers I found on a silver type plug on starboard side top of head?? G3608022 Also took it out on the water today started great but I had run it on the muffs at my house an hour or so before ran great no swtumbling nothing good pick up, idle, shifting all good very quiet only thing I did noy like was I think it should put out more volts for charging it is just hitting the green on the guage volt meter shows 11.97 idle and only 11.98 at wot.. I aqm use to auto`s and that put out at least 13.50 - 14.00 .. Hopefully this helps Thanks for your time Bill
 

jonesg

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Re: runs poorly on start after 2 min smoothes out??

I don't see that you have a problem, they all like to be warmed up until they will hold an idle, they also don't run as well on a hose as in the water.
And those meters are not always accurate, put a meter across the battery when its running for a real world assessment.

When I start mine cold I keep bumping the choke until it smooths out, usually around a minute.
 

ezeke

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Re: runs poorly on start after 2 min smoothes out??

Based on the serial number G3608022, the engine is in the range of serial numbers that I have listed for the model year 1984. A BRP dealer may be able to refine that for you.
 

billybaja

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Re: runs poorly on start after 2 min smoothes out??

Ok thanks I think you are in the ballpark . the guy I got it from seemed pretty honest ,he rebuilt it 2 years ago it from several different motors and was not exactly sure of the year ran it for an hour in the tank and then and hour on the boat.. He then winterized it stored it and started working on the boat and realized it was too much for him and stopped the work letting the boat turn into a mess.. So i Had to take the junk boat with the motor but also got all the controll`s battery boxes an alumiinum gas tank, trailer all in good shape for $500.00 and as strange as it seems he gave me a unheard of written warranty with the motor??? , nothing for the boat lol lol first time I ever heard of that.. AS far as the volts go with my son operating thye boat I did use meter or multi meter at idle 11.97 wot is 11.98, thought that was low?? Rectifier?? otherwise I think I got a pretty good deal so far Thanks again Bill
 

billybaja

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Re: runs poorly on start after 2 min smoothes out??

Did not see it at first that is my next stop.. Thanks again Bill
 
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