Safety Chains!!

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GA_Boater

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Wow!

That trailer also had no tongue weight or the coupler would have been on the ground.
 

jbcurt00

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wow... I've never seen one come loose before, and I've seen some sketchy looking hitch/safety chain setups..... possibly behind my own tow vehicle :facepalm:

what were the chances that it'd happen, let alone happen right in front of a surveillance camera
 

Chad Flaugher

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I had a mowing trailer come lose on an rough overpass... The ball latch in the coupler failed, and I had very little tongue weight. I had to hit the breaks so the trailer ran into my truck before it went over the embankment just past the guard rail. The coupler slid under the truck, snapping both safety chains, and the fence on the front of the trailer contacted the bumper of my truck. Once that happened, I was able to stabilize the trailer and bring it to a stop. Whew! It could've been so much worse!
 

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wow. I agree on safety chains. looks like a small fishing boat, with negative tongue weigth.
 

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I think tounge weight was the bigger issue there, I can speak from experience safety chains sometimes fail. Luckly when mine did it was on a early morning and I was only going 40km/h
 

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About 30 years ago I had an incident where I hit a boat. I was driving an older four door Toyota Land Cruiser and was just leaving a boat launch area after a day of fishing. About 5 boats all pulled out in a row, I was the last to leave the ramp area. The guy ahead of me was towing what I think was about a 16' Sea King. As I headed out of the ramp and got up to speed, I noticed his boat move a bit on the trailer, as I started to point out to my buddy sitting in the passenger seat about the idiot ahead of me who didn't tie his boat down, the thing jump up off the trailer and landed sideways in front of me just feet in front of my truck.
I had no time to react, at about 50 mph I hit the boat, all I heard was a loud pop sound, then all I saw was fiberglass bits sliding over the truck. I pulled over, (as did a State Police Officer who had been about four car lengths behind me). The guy who owned the boat came over screaming that I ruined his boat. The outboard was lying in the road, the police car that had been behind me was covered in fiberglass bits, as was my truck. My home made brush guard on the truck took the brunt of the hit, the only damage to my truck was a tennis ball size dent in the left side of the hood where something solid came through the bars on the brush guard.
About 90% of the boat was broken into pieces no bigger than a squirrel. The few larger pieces flew into the woods, and there was some busted up plywood still bolted to the old Chrysler motor. The motor controls were in the grille of the police car, the officer seemed to think that they were what bounced off my hood leaving the dent.
As the owner of the boat ranted and raged about how I destroyed his boat, the officer gave him a seat in the patrol car since he wouldn't stop screaming.
I never followed up on what tickets he got, the damage to my truck wasn't worth an insurance claim, and I was never summoned to court over the incident.
I'm sure the damage to the patrol car got him some hefty fines and a few tickets. The officer took my info, and told me I was free to go at the time unless I wanted to press civil charges against the driver. I saw no point and just left. If I had been driving a small car, I suppose the outcome would have been different, but the old Landcruiser was a well used old truck with a huge home made winch bumper and brush guard made from 1 1/2" tubing with braces run down to the frame through the fenders. The PTO winch, the grille, and the snow plow mount made the front of that thing pretty much indestructible.

A good number of people out there who tow boats, or any trailer for that matter have no idea what is safe and what isn't.
Take a look around at some of the rigs on the road. I had a customer years ago who's trailer coupler had fallen apart, he drilled a hole through the top where the ball goes and just bolted it to the step bumper. He towed that way for years. No safety chains at all, his theory is that if it broke loose, he didn't want it chewing up the tailgate on his truck.
How many people don't look to see if the coupler takes a 1 7/8" or 2" ball? They just drop the trailer on, if it latches, down the road they go.
How many have no idea that the coupler can be adjusted to fit the ball properly?
How many people would even notice if the spring in the coupler latch broke or was missing? How many even bother to put a lock or bolt through the coupler when towing? How many people are towing trailers on rusted out step bumpers with no idea what could happen if it failed.

Chances are that boat in the video was never attached properly, either the wrong size ball, or a bad coupler latch, or it may well have never been down on the ball in the first place. I followed a guy about four miles once to the boat ramp, he pulled out of a gas station just ahead of me and was in front of me in line to launch. He stopped while in line, untied the boat, tossed all his coolers and gear in the boat then proceeded back down the ramp, as he did, the trailer reared up and the outboard hit the ramp. The trailer came off the ball. I ran over to help and the trailer coupler still had a lock through the hole, and the ball was the right size. When we manhandled the trailer back onto the ball, I latched it on there myself and it fit secure. The only explanation was that he never had the coupler all the way on the ball when he latched the handle and put the lock in. When the weight shifted on the ramp, plus the addition of all the gear he tossed in the back, it lifted right up. The tongue weight was enough to allow him to pull the boat down the road even though the coupler wasn't connected correctly.
 

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i am pretty safety conscientious. I have been pulling trailers for about 25 years or so. when I bought my boat I asked the PO where the transom straps were. he said he never used them and the boat was heavy enough that it won't go anywhere. he also added that if the boat ever did come off the trailer he wanted it as far away from him as he could be. dunno? I put straps on it as soon as I got home.

also, here is a link to an old high school friend who was unfortunate enough to meet up with a moron who didn't know how to attach a trailer:
http://www.post-gazette.com/frontpa...-shatters-miracle-family/stories/200604150154
 

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Speaking of safety chains, the boat/trailer I recently bought doesn't have one. My question is: Is the safety chain supposed to attach to the bow hook, where the winch strap attaches? Also, I assume the other end goes on to this: IMG_20151229_164043053_zpsj0f6wuub.jpg
Now, the trailer does have 2 safety chains that attach to the trailer hitch on my vehicle, but I'm talking about an additional chain to go from the trailer to the boat itself, just in case the winch comes undone. Seems like my last boat had one, but can't remember exactly...
Also, when I went to buy the boat, it didn't have transom straps on it either. Bought those asap...
 
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mine is similar but has a turnbuckle attached there. it is actually welded to the upright on mine but i think a turnbuckle is better than a chain?
 

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mine is similar but has a turnbuckle attached there. it is actually welded to the upright on mine but i think a turnbuckle is better than a chain?
A turnbuckle? Hmm...I know my previous boat didn't have that...pretty sure it was just a chain. My plan is to get a chain that leaves just a little slack when fastened to both the trailer (shown in pic in previous post) and the bow of the boat. Anyone see any problems with this plan? Thanks!
 

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Speaking of safety chains, the boat/trailer I recently bought doesn't have one. My question is: Is the safety chain supposed to attach to the bow hook, where the winch strap attaches? Also, I assume the other end goes on to this:
Now, the trailer does have 2 safety chains that attach to the trailer hitch on my vehicle, but I'm talking about an additional chain to go from the trailer to the boat itself, just in case the winch comes undone. Seems like my last boat had one, but can't remember exactly...
Also, when I went to buy the boat, it didn't have transom straps on it either. Bought those asap...

The safety chain you want does go through the same fitting on the boat as the winch strap. It should be just long enough to conveniently connect the hook when the boat is pulled up correctly with the winch. Bolt the chain on just below the winch, or pass it through a fitting below the winch and attach the chain further forward on the tongue so if the whole winch post goes away the chain will still hold. (but that is getting really paranoid)


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When I bought a 18'6" fiberglass bass boat there were no safety chains, no working lights on the trailer and the bungee cords used on the transom wouldn't have held a 10 ft aluminum hull...
 

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While we are on the subject, I have a single axle trailer holding my 20' Bayliner (2200lbs new).
I read in here that there should be 60% weight on the front. So if my trailer is 1,200lbs and boat is 2,400lbs, then that is 3,600lbs. Does that mean 10% weight on the tongue? That would be 360lbs. Seems like a lot of weight. I know I can't just lift my tongue up if I try. It is very heavy!!
I am guessing at these weights. No idea actually how heavy it all is.
 

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While we are on the subject, I have a single axle trailer holding my 20' Bayliner (2200lbs new).
I read in here that there should be 60% weight on the front. So if my trailer is 1,200lbs and boat is 2,400lbs, then that is 3,600lbs. Does that mean 10% weight on the tongue? That would be 360lbs. Seems like a lot of weight. I know I can't just lift my tongue up if I try. It is very heavy!!
I am guessing at these weights. No idea actually how heavy it all is.

Not even close to being on topic - You have a new topic.

http://forums.iboats.com/forum/gene...es/trailers-and-towing/10127697-tongue-weight
 
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