Sanding Looper Plastic Carb Bowls

seabird89

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I have leaky carb bowls in my 89 OMC Seadrive 140. I tried to follow some others advice and sand the bowls down, but I am not sure if I sanded enough.

On my bowls they had a small ridge (lip) on the gasket surface that ran around the entire bowl, I was afraid if I sanded too much I would lose this lip and make things worse, so I only sanded for a minute or so, with the 400 grit sandpaper taped to a glass table moving the carb bowls in a figure 8 pattern. It was difficult to see whether the bowls were warped and any difference after sanding because of this lip. I basically sanded until I could see the sand marks all around the lip and a little on the outer edge of each mounting ear.

I then rebuilt the carbs and reassembled trying not to tighten the bowls too tightly, since someone suggested that this is why they warp.

When I put the carbs back on, they still leaked when primed. So I took them off one at a time, tightened them some more, and put them back in place with just one bolt hand tightened so I could pump the primer again. Tightening the bowls seemed to stop the leak while the carb was loosely mounted with the one bolt, however once I fully remounted the carbs to the throttle body and torqued the bolts, the leaks seemed to get worse, almost as if the pressure of the bottom two bolts, was warping the bowls and/or the carb body. I backed off the torque from 120 to 90, and the leak slowed down to a very slow drip.

I took the boat to the lake for a water test I could not get up on plane.

Assuming that the carbs were sucking air, should I take the carbs off again and sand the bowls completely flat removing the lip?

I could order new bowls, but I read they never made aluminum bowls for the looper carbs, so I would be getting the same plastic bowls and may have the same issue down the road. Plus, I am not sure that the carb bodies are not also contributing to the problem.

Is there an aluminum carb from another year that I can use?
 

James R

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You are chasing something that you cannot fix by messing. Get the new bowls and forget about down the road. Nothing lasts for ever. The plastic bowls will always be an issue but if you treat them kindly and dont over tighten they will serve you well enough.
 

seabird89

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I hear you, the problem is that they don't make them anymore. I just bought some used bowls that have a 30 day return policy if they don't work, hopefully this will slove the problem.
 

seabird89

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So I got the used bowls, an they were sealing fine until I started torquing down the carb bodies. I think the carb bodies are soft and are warping under the pressure of the mounting bolts. I guess I will order carb bodies and see if I can fix this once and for all.

On an older motor like mine, should I back off the factory torque specifications? It seems like these plastic carbs just don't hold up to the 120" lbs. of torque. I think I will back off of that spec to 80 or 100 when I get the other carb bodies.
 
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