sharks s. Florida

hodgejr

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i know this isn't the travel forem, but...anyways, what do you guys think about all these sharks in Florida? In Daytona, six surfers were bitten. In Tampa, a huge school of bullsharks are migrating south, those are mean ones. Then the attack in the Bahamas, it goes on and on...<br /><br />Is this an environmental problem or rather a migration of several species all in one???
 

JB

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This is primarily a media problem. They haven't found anything else to shriek about.<br /><br />Red sky at night. . .<br />JB :)
 

epresutti

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I was out on Three Rooker Bar, about 1/4 mile south of Anclote Key, last sunday, scraping a friends boat, didn't notice the sharks, til I saw the news that night.<br /><br />Spoke to my neighbor that evening (old timer, been in Tampa Bay for years), he said it was an anual thing, migration south.<br /><br />Still don't like being in the water with the toothy creatures.<br /><br />Ed.
 

kayak99

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As I write, surfers are on the news complaining of being chased out of the water due to shark sitings. Some people have very hard heads.<br /><br />What do sharks call a surfing competition? <br /><br />a buffet
 

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Harharharhar!!!! Good one, Kayak! :D :D :D <br /><br />Red sky at night. . .<br />JB :)
 

yensid

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It's not more/meaner sharks (not that I'd blame 'em for fighting back), but more people in the water and more media coverage....<br /><br />Bull sharks are the worst, they're just mean...
 

Chum Slick

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If I were a surfer in Fla I believe I would trade in my board for a 15ft Ugly Stick with a good reel loaded with 60lb Trilene with a good shock leader, and ask on of the neighborhood kids if they wanted to go fishing..........<br /><br />Keep the bait in the Slick....
 

MercilessMike

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GET FREAKING REAL, The Oceans of the World are SHARKS environment. WE ARE VISTORS to their world. Sharks DO live in the water, Sharks DO EAT, Sharks were here LONG before we were! Leave them alone, Natures way is the best way ! Read a book, GET EDUCATED!
 

Enso

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I would have to agree with MercilessMike on this one. The media knows that people will simply eat this stuff up. Also, there is more people in the water, people like thrills and aren't afraid to go around these kings of the sea. If you don't bother them chances are they will not bother you....but you just never know. The water is there domain and were going to have to play in there environment by there rules. :eek:
 

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Did anyone hear the story about the kid Jesse who had his arm bitten off and his uncle wrestled the shark to the beach and retrieved the arm. There was a rumour going around the www that the uncle was shark fishing and the fish was hooked at the time of attack. Can anyone verify that, or is it just virtual lore.<br /><br />I have been spearfishing(free diving) in the Bahamas and had to get back in the boat on several occassions when the toothy critters showed up. We always had one person in the tower with an air horn on watch. You are right, it is their domain. The best place to see a shark is from the boat. And they actually feed them on the bottom at Walkers. Not me!! :cool:
 

MercilessMike

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Dont need 60lb test, catch them with 6lb fireline all night long...Then of course RELEASE them. As far as the Jesse story, It it true that he did get his arm bitten off, His uncle did wrestle,carry shark to land, got arem out of gullet/mouth. News is that Uncle was Shark fishing and stowed tackle in vehicle before EMS/Ploice arrived.<br />If he was hooked up at time has not been confirmed yet. Per St Petersburg Times. :cool:
 

yensid

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Good reason for that story to get a bunch of media attention :) <br /><br />My biggest worry with media attention is that people will freak out and start asking for 'shark nets' like in South Africa. Yuck....though that's really not likely, seeing as how it wouldn't be very practical with these sharks, and if a big anti-push shark movement started happening, I'd bet we'd see a bunch of media attention about how sharks aren't really that bad :)
 

anne

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What do I think? As some other folks have pointed out, sharks are always out there. I think we're just hearing heaps more about it right now... Why? Well, I'd tend to agree with JB on that -- media over-hype stuff. There's not that much else to report of late... PLUS this kind of story generates a lot of attention, especially with the Jesse Arbogast (sp?) incident being so recent -- a little kid, the shark being "wrestled to shore", the arm retrieved from within the shark and reattached... That was quite a sensational story thus ended up everywhere and got people's attention... Increased circulation / viewership means increased advertising revenue for media, so, off they go and it's a self-perpetuating cycle for a while until something else takes center stage.<br /><br />When you put a lot of people in water where a lot of sharks are feeding, some folks may very likely get bitten; I think that's what's going on in Volusia County.<br /><br />No creature likes to be in the position of possibly becoming prey, so it's kinda freaky to be reminded of that possibility, especially since we human beings have done a lot to reduce / eliminate that possibility in a lot of "our territory"... :( <br /><br />The kookiest think I've heard out of all of it was that one of the victims bitten in the Bahamas was considering suing the resort property and lifeguards at the beach where that attack occurred. It's very sad to see someone maimed, but sheesh -- life is not safe and without risk -- if a person feels they need to hold someone else responsible for every misfortune that occurs in their life, maybe they'd be best advised to stay in a padded cell somewhere! :eek: <br /><br />Although the number of incidents for the year may be slightly higher than average at current, I think it would be slight enough not to be statistically significant.<br />For less sensationalistic info on the subject, try: http://www.flmnh.ufl.edu/fish/Sharks/isaf/isaf.htm <br /><br />Then again, maybe it's all a big sign that the end of the world is near!!! <br /> :eek: ;) <br /><br />-anne :)
 

Ranger354

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Seems like a few years back some one was crying about Grizzlies eating some tourists. Why is it always NOT human error! The media is looking for job security. If you print it some fool will read it. Truth or Fiction...... :rolleyes:
 

yensid

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I have a book called Death in Yellowstone that talks about all of the known deaths in Yellowstone Park. It goes in to some detail about different attempts (and successes) people have made to sue the park due to deaths from bison goring people, bear attacks, people falling in to hot springs, trees falling, etc....it seems some people don't grasp the fact that nature really is wild.
 

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I heard the story about the Uncle fishing when the boy's arm was bitten off on a diving radio program. The next week on the same radio program, they proclaimed the story to be bogus, apologetic as can be. The story was apparently based on an unconfirmed internet story and quickly proven baseless. <br /><br />Also , I lived in Fl a few years ago(14), and bought a surfboard. I gave it up when I figured out how many sharks were out there. The same kinds of stories occurred at the local level( vs national), hand and foot bites. I didn't want one of those. I also recall reports of shark schools.
 

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I swear to budah, this one person follows me to every site!! Go away, Nun.I was here first.<br />(Private joke,sorry)<br /><br />Anyhoo, I am a lifelong resident of Florida.<br />The sharks ARE an anual thing, feeding off both coasts,and inland waters to some degree. The only differences are;<br />1. Media hype. Like the pickup truck full of construction workers that flipped over. It WILL make national headlines.Count on it.<br /><br />2, There are more sharks this year than there were in previous years.<br /><br />3, There are more manatees than there were last year.<br /><br />4, There are less bait fish.<br /><br />5, Sharks are "endangered", so you have a boat limit of 1...That's right,ONE.<br /><br />OK, allow me to tie this all together...Being here and boating,fishing,and surfing (in my youth) here, I am somewhat knowlegeable on this subject.. I could make money as a guide,but don't wanna ruin the thrill of boating and fishing every day after I retire.<br />The manatee population is increasing dramaticly. So much so, that there is a movement afoot to have them removed from the endangered species list. What does this mean?<br />Sea cows eat sea grass, hence, the moniker, "SeaCow".<br />As thier poulation increased, the grasses they feed on,are becomming over-grazed, hence less breeding/feeding grounds FOR EVERYTHING ELSE in the water...Hence,no bait fish.<br />Now, every trip, we must catch one shark,and one shark ONLY before I will pull up anchor and go in (I will do my part).<br />But seeinz how we can only catch one per boat, this means the little buggers are getting pretty thick.<br /><br />Now, at the same time, the snook,redfish,trout that taste so nummy to the shark are also nummy to man are getting incresingly rare. We are allowed a few more of them,than we are of shark.<br />But they have no seagrass to bread and feed in,so the poulation is dwindling.<br />The poor gang of fishless sharks are hungry as desert dogs. They are biting at outboard skegs. They are eating things that don't particularily taste very good to them (like yer surfer-joes).<br />Trust me on this one,folks. Florida has gotten crazier than California at protecting thier wildlife into extinction!!<br />Finally Newscopter10 flies-over the beach,and sees this pack of sharks...The bubble-headed bleach blonde comes-on at 5, and you get the "picture". Nuff said.Bruno is probably mad at me allready, but I had to vent.
 

yensid

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I may be coming down to Florida to visit my brother in Sarasota, and I was wondering from one of you gulf shark fisherman. What size hook do you use on your surfer when fishing for bull sharks?<br /><br /> :D sorry couldn't resist
 

Navigator

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Sharks have always been around in the coastal waters of Florida, and probably always will be.<br /><br />I have an Idea....<br /><br />Can we train them to feed on PWC lunatics....<br /><br />There seems to be an ample supply here of PWC idiots and I'm really not sure if any of us boaters would miss them....<br /><br /><br />Nav :D
 
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