Silent Choice

Mamier

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Can anyone tell me what a MerCruiser 260hp with Silent Choice Exhaust is? The dealer says it has this option but all I see is thru transom exhaust. Thanks.
 

marinemech1

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Re: Silent Choice

there is a valve in the exhaust pipe which diverts exhaust over board "thur hull"<br />or down thur prop<br />here in Canada we must disable "thur hull feature within a mile of shore due to noise laws i would check your state etc laws to be sure you are compilant ( can"t spell)
 

Mamier

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Re: Silent Choice

Hey, I back with another question. I looked today at the engine compartment. The two exhaust tubes coming off the headers go straight to the transom. So is there a switch? Or is there something you do in the engine compartment that makes the switch.
 

marinemech1

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Re: Silent Choice

there should also be exhaust pipes running down through a pipe to transom below engine.<br />there should be a movable valve inside pipe to divert exhaust thur transom or thur pipe
 

marinemech1

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Re: Silent Choice

the valve is usually operated electically from a switch on dash
 

Mamier

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Re: Silent Choice

Thanks marinemech1. I suspect Ive been dooped by the salesperson. I don't seen anything on the dash nor do see other exhaust tubes running down to the lower unit. I'm having the marine service folks look at it tomorrow. If I "dont have it" is it a complicated thing to install? Still available through MerCruiser?
 

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Mamier

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Re: Silent Choice

Thanks Quiet Cat. Man you got that right (your last line). I spoke with the dealer this morning,,,and they seemed surprised too. Told me that they would make good. Lets see if it happens. BTW, its Yacht Club Marina in Osage Beach MO. The sales person Ken does not have a clue. He needs a new profession. Thanks for the links.
 

Manipulator

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If you are in Seattle why are you dealing with the people in Osage Beach? I know who you are talking about as this is where I do all my boating (Lake of the Ozarks). I have met this Ken guy and my Father has dealt with him. He is worthless! Avoid him.
 

Mamier

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Hi Manipulator. I could not find a Formula 242LS in the Northwest. I found this one in MO. It's actually a very sweet boat. Only got 269 hours on it and has not been used since 2001. It's cleaned up quite well and the price I wanted to pay. <br /><br />Yea, Salesman Ken is useless. The Service Manager Dave has been cool so far. He told me he will make good. I had the boat shipped to Seattle. Spent the weekend cleaning her up. It' s looking good except for the Silent Choice issue.
 

Manipulator

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So basically he said it has the silent choice option but in reality it doesn't? How are they going to "do right" by it? Are they going to find a local shop to convert it and then pay the bill? Lake of the Ozarks is a fun lake. Did you come here and drive it first? <br /><br />Formula is a sweet boat. I would love to have one but they are a bit pricey for me. Did you buy it for the performance? I know there seems to be a lot of boats to choose from. Cigarette, Scarab, Check Mate. I like Envision and Baja too. In this part of the country it seems that Baja is very popular. So you have a 5.7 Mercruiser. Mine is a Sea Ray with 260hp Chevy unfortunately mated to an OMC. <br /><br />With gas prices going up, boat prices should be going down.
 

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Re: Silent Choice

He had the boat advertised on Boattrader.com. In the description, he described it as "Mercruiser 260 with Silent Choice Exhaust". That was key for me as we have noise restrictions on the lake. I asked "Ken" a few times if it had thru hull or hub exhaust. He said it had the Silent Choice. <br /><br />No, bought it sight unseen (I know). But, I had the boat surveyed and they did not ID that, but rather the boat was in decent shape. <br /><br />I'll propose that my local marina do the change and they pay the bill for parts and labor as my offer on the boat was based on the boat having the Silent Choice. Or I'll sue them for mis-representation. <br /><br />I've had a few Formula's and they are really well built. This is a 1985 and got if for a fair price. Sea Ray is an excellent boat. My second choice in fact. Hey, swap out the outdrive to the Merc...you can do that I believe.
 

Manipulator

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Well the guy I bought it from had the lower unit rebuilt not that long ago. He also had a new water pump in the lower unit installed. I didn't know there was one in the lower unit but apparently there is. He also had both exhaust manifolds replaced. I'm a little leery of all of this because I found that one of the exhaust risers was cracked. I changed it out over the weekend. Then I noticed they used "sewer grade" rubber hose in place of real marine exhaust hose. The hose on one side was cooked. I had to replace all of it. I'm scared to know they rebuilt the lower unit now that I think about. Anyway, if she dies I will get a merc conversion. That is if it's not an arm and a leg. The motor could use a rebuild by then too. Although it runs great right now and burns no oil. I guess if you are going to spend the money for the labor your midis well do it all. Maybe I will just convert the whole thing over to a Bravo or something. Then again, my boat is a 1984 so it's already pretty old. It too was well maintained but starting to show its age. I really don't know if the cost would be worth it.
 

Mamier

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Wow, sewer grade tubing. Now that would make me think twice too. Hey, run her until she graves. Then do the whole thing. Thats my plan. <br /><br /><br />This engine I have has 271 hours on it (but it is a 1985 with no rebuild). I actually budgeted on replacing the engine and drive but hope I don't have to for awhile. Man, these service yards scare the poop out of me. I just told them to do some maintenance since its been sitting for so long. I also told them to go ahead and do the exhaust swap for the silent choice (or an aftermarket system thanks to the great response from Quietcat above).<br /><br />I'll call the Yacht Club and tell them i am sending them a bill. :)
 

Manipulator

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I found out about the sewer lines after I had the boat for some time. Looks like the marina was trying to make as much profit as they could buy cutting down their cost on parts. It is a wet exhaust system and the hoses had been on there for sometime. It got hot but nothing like a dry system would. Hell, marine grade hose can't even handle that. They took a lickin but weren't ready to burst or leak. Probably would have happened after this summer or during this summer. <br /><br />My engine has close to 750 hours but has been very well maintained. The people I bought it from babied it. They pulled it out of the river every week and wiped it down. The guy was a fanatic with maintenance so I know it was well taken care of mechanically. <br /><br />271 hours?? That's not even broken in where I come from. There are boats on the lake out here with 1400 plus hours with no engine rebuild. I've heard that most engines get overhauled around the 1000-1200 range. I'm going to drive it until it dies. Then hopefully I will buy whatever I want. I would love a Baja Outlaw. What I have now is nice because it has a cuddy cabin and the kids can go in there out of the sun. It's a classic at this stage of the game. Its clean and the 350 is pretty good on fuel. Dad has a 28ft Bayliner cruiser and that tub has the King Cobra 460 which drinks gas. <br /><br />I'm very leery of marine garages (not all are bad). I keep my boat at the lake and was out of state when my Dad gives me a call. At the marina where I store my boat there is another guy there with almost an identical boat and get this; his boat key fits my boat! Anyway, this guy wanted his boat tuned up and they got his boat confused with mine and worked on mine by accident. Well they try to call me but the marina gives them my dads number. He calls me and tells me the situation. He says they want to put "your old parts back on your boat or if you pay them, they will leave it". I tell him to tell the garage I will pay for their parts since they did it by accident but I'm not paying for labor as my boat didn't need a tune up. They wanted full price for everything so I said "screw you, you idiots tuned up the wrong boat, you should have just said you were sorry and left it at that". I wanted to be nice about it so I said I would pay for their parts so they weren't out any money. They apologize and agree to this. Anyway, they said they put in new points and cap and rotor, they rebuilt the carburetor and changed both fuel filters. The guy tells me the total for parts was $400 and some change and that he was going to be nice and charge me $300 for the inconvenience. I look up the tune up kit online and its $13 (cap, points and rotor), and one fuel filter was $3 and other was $11, the carb kit was around $18. This loser is trying to charge me $300 for what I could have bought online for under $50 shipping included. I get back to town and run down to the lake for the weekend. I take a look at the engine and they changed one filter not two (the cheap one at that) and they did put a new cap, rotor and points in it. The idiots didn't bother resetting the timing and they never touched the carburetor. The carb was filthy and they told me they rebuilt it. I call this scumbag up who treats me like a woman buying a car like. I told him he's not getting a cent now. Can't believe the guy continued to argue with me. He was caught and continued to tell me he did all this work. I told him he didn't do the work and wasn't getting paid, nor was I'm paying for parts that he never replaced. I should have reported this guy. What a scumbag.<br /><br />The thing about this is these guys do this to people all the time. Let's face it; most people have no clue when it comes to boats. Hell they charge $1000+ to winterize your boat down at Lake of the Ozarks. "Oh, you need an oil change, that's $400 dollars". What a racket!
 

Mamier

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Re: Silent Choice

Unbelieveable. Man you need to write a book. Hey, we should do it together!<br /><br />I told Yacht Club to lake test the boat. THey did, told me the carb needed to be rebuilt. Charged me $350. But you know, I should had just left it and waited til it arrived. I am having my marina look at it and i can see it know; "you need the carb rebuilt". Let me tell you, I work with some pretty well know entertainers who have amazing lawyers. If I find out that they did squat...I'll be making a phone call..<br /><br />Going to post a pic of my formula later on...check it out man.
 
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