Sinker Sale

triumphrick

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Shopped at the local Wally World today and found that all of our local stores are changing out their supplier of some fishing supplies. Consequently, all lead sinkers were marked way down. Since I grouper fish, it is not uncommon to lose 3-4 rigs from hangups. :( Each with a 4 ounce sinker. That pound of lead can cost me up to $4-6. Anyone else notice this??, or is it just something going on locally? I am now the proud owner of about 20 lbs of new lead sinkers! Fish On!! :)
 

CheapboatKev

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Re: Sinker Sale

Ya know Triumph..
I wonder if it has anything at all to do with lead bans in any fisheries, much like the lead shot ban for hunters in the wetlands??
Maybe?? They have regulated much smaller things!:D
 

thurps

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I believe in making my own. I can usually pick up lead at a salvage yard for .25 lb. and molds are a good investment if you decorate as many rocks as I do. I also make up most of my own jigs. You would be amazed at what you can find at the local dollar store to replace a $3/$5 scampi.
 

mthieme

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I haven't heard of any lead sinker bans here in the swamps.
We wouldn't want any transient geese to dive down 50' and swallow a 1/4 # of lead though.:rolleyes:
At the risk of leaning towards politics (?), sounds like something that would be enacted.
 

triumphrick

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I believe in making my own. I can usually pick up lead at a salvage yard for .25 lb. and molds are a good investment if you decorate as many rocks as I do. I also make up most of my own jigs. You would be amazed at what you can find at the local dollar store to replace a $3/$5 scampi.

Great idea...didn't know that the lead was available at that price. I'll call around a bit. I remember my Dad making sinkers a looooong time ago. All I ever use is 3-6 oz egg sinkers, which are a pretty common mold. The supply I picked up won't be around long as I tend to decorate some of the reefs pretty regularly. As they say, if ya ain't hookin on to sumthin, ain't nothin there...Also as far as jigs go, check out a few of this guys pictures. He fishes just north of us, but a little farther out. Looks like I may be needing to make a few of them as well!! :eek:

http://forums.saltwatersportsman.com/showthread.php?t=562977
 

NO WHINERS

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I need to check out the local walmart...Last September I was fishing with 16 oz. sinkers in baja..We fished really deep and lost mucho sinkers...Mucho $$$
 

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I have noticed that the Wally world here has just not been restocking things like sinkers or any items sold loose, they have brought in individual and double packs for three time the cost of the loose items. I've noticed this with sinkers, floats, boat plugs, and other items that were usually in the bins at the bottom of the shelf, I just figured it was a way to cut down on theft and to get more money out of each item. I also noticed that the general quality of the tackle as dropped, it's all really low end stuff now, nothing even decent anymore. A few years back, I was buying 50 packs of Mustad hooks, larger quantities of Gamakatsu hooks, etc, now its 2 and 4 packs only, I bought several Ugly Stick Tiger rods as well, all of that is gone now in favor of no name tackle and junk. They do have a lot of Berkley tackle but again, low end stuff. I can remember buying Penn 320GTI reels in blister packs, no that section is full of Johnson kiddy reels and some Chinese made Walmart brand junk.
I'm sure the lead free push has got a lot to do with it but only a few states have made it law so far. Lead is still legal to use here.

Also, if I am fishing someplace that I will no doubt be losing rigs and sinkers all day, I use scrap steel to make throwaway sinkers. I've taken old axle shafts or bar stock and cut it up and either welded on an eye or drilled holes. It takes only minutes on a lathe and mill to knock out some throwaway sinkers from steel. I've even see guys use old spark plugs, nuts and bolts, or what ever they could find when wreck fishing.
I do one of two things, either I just fish with junk weight, what ever I have at the time, and if I know it's going to most likely get lost, I'll attach the weight with a rubber band or lighter line than the rig is made from. This way I only lose the sinker, not the rig and bait.

My favorite is to take old bicycle tubes, cut them into rings or rubber bands and use them, they hold well and don't have the bounce that a rubber band would have and they're a bit harder to break off making it harder to accidentally lose your weight.

I have also tried a few different shapes when it comes to weight, I've done real well using a longer piece of bar stock with a tapered top end, it seems to glide over instead of get hung up. I do some tog and seabass fishing here, and in deeper water its not uncommon to use 16-20oz of weight to hold bottom. I've gone onto party boats with a tool bag full of throwaway weights of all shapes and sizes, what I lose don't matter since I really have nothing but some time invested in it.
 

triumphrick

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Also, if I am fishing someplace that I will no doubt be losing rigs and sinkers all day, I use scrap steel to make throwaway sinkers. I've taken old axle shafts or bar stock and cut it up and either welded on an eye or drilled holes. It takes only minutes on a lathe and mill to knock out some throwaway sinkers from steel. I've even see guys use old spark plugs, nuts and bolts, or what ever they could find when wreck fishing.
I do one of two things, either I just fish with junk weight, what ever I have at the time, and if I know it's going to most likely get lost, I'll attach the weight with a rubber band or lighter line than the rig is made from. This way I only lose the sinker, not the rig and bait.

My favorite is to take old bicycle tubes, cut them into rings or rubber bands and use them, they hold well and don't have the bounce that a rubber band would have and they're a bit harder to break off making it harder to accidentally lose your weight.

I have also tried a few different shapes when it comes to weight, I've done real well using a longer piece of bar stock with a tapered top end, it seems to glide over instead of get hung up. I do some tog and seabass fishing here, and in deeper water its not uncommon to use 16-20oz of weight to hold bottom. I've gone onto party boats with a tool bag full of throwaway weights of all shapes and sizes, what I lose don't matter since I really have nothing but some time invested in it.

Ya gotta love it...it's what they call Yankee ingenuity...and don't have nothin to do with what part of the country you're from! ;):p
 

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I guess I should add that I had actually gone a little farther experimenting with the homemade sinkers, after getting several hits in which the bait didn't appear to be touched, I made a few of those steel bar weights in which I drilled and recessed the top hole, so a swivel could be hidden and made more snag proof, and then added a hook to the other end, a single smaller hook mounted fixed to the back end, thinking that the hits I was getting were not on the bait but on the steel weight. Being there was nothing to snag the fish on it didn't break free. I tried both fixed hooks, double hooks, and a trailer hook set up. With an eyelet, a length of braided line and a 4/0 circle hook I got my first monk fish after it decided the steel rod looked like food I guess.
I've since painted all of my homemade sinkers black or sort of camo to match the sand or bottom to avoid unwanted hits on the sinker. But who would have though a fish would grab onto a half rusted steel bar. The worst part was getting that nasty toothy critter off the hook which was well affixed to the bar. It was darn good eating though.
 

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Rebar jigs. Just cut the ends on an angle and install holes. Natural, white, yellow, blue/white, etc.. The standard ling cod rig here in No. Ca..
 

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Rebar jigs. Just cut the ends on an angle and install holes. Natural, white, yellow, blue/white, etc.. The standard ling cod rig here in No. Ca..

Do you use them like a jig or troll with them?

I was getting hits on the steel bars usually just before they hit bottom, but often just while they laid there.

What I do now most often is rig the bar inline, with the baited hook just beyond the weight. This keeps the bait still and on the bottom. If theirs any drift, then the weight don't foul the bait, and the most likely snag is just the snelled hook.
 

thurps

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reelfishin; Drift them or jig them just above the bottom or bottom feature.
 

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man that brings back memories..bouncing off the bottom for ling cod..Uuuuuuugly sonofaguns, blue fillets, but ummm tasty..Caught quite a few back in my SoCal fishing days...

Did a lot of rock cod fishing with my buddy (who also cast his rock cod sinkers, 3 lbs of gainon anchor) but 600 feet down becomes a lot like work..almost :p
 

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One more slight refinement to the rebar jig. If you put a 10/15 deg. bend perpindicular to the flats (angular cutoffs) and attach a single or double hook up, it acts like a keel weight and you will only loose 75% as many.
 

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I had done a few with a curved up tail end, but with a fixed wire hook, one that I could pull straight if needed. I later went to a hook attached with a piece or braided nylon and a trailing hook as well.
The original intention wasn't to catch fish with these, but to make cheap weights I didn't mind losing, they ended up catching more fish than the rigged bait. I found that simply putting a strip of bait on the trailing hook, all but guaranteed a hook up.

I may play around with some smaller ones for stripers and fluke as well. I can bet that the fluke will hit on one if I use something really shiny.

I did a few with prismatic tape too, they caught fish but I got more junk fish than with plain steel.
 

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Welcom to Iboats ausaf. You are going to love this sight.
 
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