so if i mount a depth finder inside my hull?

jake069

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how does it know how deep the water is? I giess I dont understand it, and theres no way a water temp option would work, right?
 

deejaycee_2000

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Re: so if i mount a depth finder inside my hull?

Yes it does ..... my fish finder is mounted inside the hull, it works with sonar and radar as I am told .... it will show 100% correct as long as the "eye" sensor is mounted with no space or air bubbles etc between it and the hull .... works great ...
 

bjcsc

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Re: so if i mount a depth finder inside my hull?

A hull transducer makes for a clean install that's for sure. It is basically epoxied to the inside of the hull in a spot that points as straight down as possible. Make sure it is far enough aft. Far enough can vary, for me it has to be withing 22" of the transom as that's all that's is in the water when I'm cooking. The transducers work via sonar, i.e. they produce sound and then, depending on how long it takes for them to hear the bounce back, give a value. Check specs if you get a through the hull transducer as some are not meant for high speeds. Mine will read well up to ~77mph. I don't know about the temp. question, but I can't see how that would work.
 

Gary H NC

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Re: so if i mount a depth finder inside my hull?

The temp will not work inside the hull...it will read what the air temp is inside whatever space you mounted it.

Oh,just drill the hole...everyone drills in a boat sooner or later!8)8)
 

Texasmark

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Re: so if i mount a depth finder inside my hull?

The transducer contains a piezo device which bends when excited by electric current or sound.

If you hit it with electric current it generates soundwaves at a frequency determined by how it's cut.....say 200 kHz for mine. Your "ping" , which is also your zero depth reference is transmitted into the water this way.

Time is measured by your electronics from the time the ping is sent out till any replies (pongs) are received and is proportional to the depth shown on the display for that reply.

On the return "pong", sound waves are reflected off whatever they hit down in the water and when they strike the piezo it generates an electrical signal which the electronics registers. Obviously different targets generate different electronic signals and make for different impressions on the display.

The main requirement for low loss is a solid medium (to transmit through); doesn't matter what it is as long as you can transmit sound through it. The more efficient it does that, the lower the losses as compared to a transom mount.

And for folks running under 100 ft. you probably won't know the difference, except it may contain less interference as it is less prone (in my case) to bubbles.

Hence when mounting inside the boat, choice of mounting location, mounting material, and consistency is important. Most mfgrs of sonars tell you what glue to use and how to do a good job.

HTH,

Mark
 

ruizsantana

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Re: so if i mount a depth finder inside my hull?

I'm no expert on this, but I understand that if your hull is cored, it may or may not work depending on the coring material.
 

Chris1956

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Re: so if i mount a depth finder inside my hull?

The transducer does not have to be epoxied or caulked to the hull in order to function. It simply needs to have full contact with solid fiberglass and be wet. I used the original transom bracket and screwed the transducer into the front bilge bulkhead in my 19' I/O. Make sure the transducer element has full flat contact with the fiberglass hull, and wet it with water, and it will work fine. The residual bilge water keeps the transducer wet.
 

xtraham

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Re: so if i mount a depth finder inside my hull?

use a tupperware container filled with vegetable oil to keep the transducer wet.........
 

maxxpower

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Re: so if i mount a depth finder inside my hull?

Inside the hull is the way to go! Clean neat hidden installation, without having to drill holes in your transom, or worry about it getting knocked off. Just get a good thick epoxy, it makes things a lot easier!
 

bjcsc

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Re: so if i mount a depth finder inside my hull?

Hmmm. I would epoxy it. I don't have "residual bilge water", my bilge is dry 95% of the time, and I can't imagine it would work through any container,and even if it did I wouldn't want to maintain that.

ruizsantana is correct. If you mount it over core it won't work, or won't work correctly. Has to be solid as Texasmark bolded...
 

xtraham

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Re: so if i mount a depth finder inside my hull?

what kind of core? I know first hand they will work just fine through 2" of wood,
 

bjcsc

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Re: so if i mount a depth finder inside my hull?

Foam, anything dense like wood should work, but anything porous may not...
 
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