Sound proofing 2 stroke cover.

tallcanadian

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I come to the JohnnyRude guru's again looking for an answer. I'm repainting my 1985 45hp commercial outboard. My question is can I soundproof, insulate my hood to deaden the noise a bit? Obviously it's water cooled but will this affect the cooling at all? Thank you for you help and wisdom.
 

basspirate

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Re: Sound proofing 2 stroke cover.

soundproofing should not affect the cooling however it might affect your performance. sound travels through air. if you could totally soundproof the engine cover air would not be able to get in. your engine would starve for air and run very poorly. you should have some soft foam inside the cover. if it's not there you can buy it at an upholstery store. 1/2 foam is what i believe is original.
 

Xcusme

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Re: Sound proofing 2 stroke cover.

ah sure, just leave the air path free so the motor will run as normal. I have insulation that will fit , and I have done it to my 8hp Johnston.
Let me know ....
 

d.boat

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Re: Sound proofing 2 stroke cover.

I've tried a couple of methods to lessen the sound. I even bought an "outboard kit" from a soundproofing materials company.

One of the basic principles of soundproofing is - use the correct material to dampen the frequency/type of sound waves. Many designed soundproofing materials are foam for general sound proofing and an inner, sandwitched layer of something denser to absorb low frequency sounds. This can be as dense as a thin lead sheet, or often, heavy vinyl or similar. So, while plain generic foam materials might work a little, they aren't the best or most effective.

Another is completely block off the sound. Example: if you gradually close a door, the sound coming out of the room of course depends on how much the door remains open. But the difference between the last crack open and completely closed is very large. It's that last little bit that makes the most difference, relatively speaking. Unfortunately, you can't do this with an outboard because you need to keep the air vents open.

In addition, the great majority of the noise comes out the exhaust which although it is in the water, still puts out a lot of noise. You can't do anything about that at all. If you think of the sound that comes out of a Harley's straight exhaust pipes compared to the sound of the engine itself, you see what I mean. The only way to meaningfully deaden the sound is to put a muffler on the tail pipe.

Therefore, even the most careful, well designed soundproofing won't do very much for you. It might cut it a little, but it won't be night and day.

After trying (fairly) expensive outboard-specific material on a large V6 and a 10 hp kicker, I decided it's not worth it and will just use generic foam in the future and accept that outboards are loud.
 

tallcanadian

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Re: Sound proofing 2 stroke cover.

See, I knew I would get great responses. This is why I came the experts. I appreciate the input and will try some stuff. I have absolutely no foam on the cowl now. Not sure if it ever did. But I wouldn't mind trying something, even if it makes a little difference. It would be awesome to deaden the noise totally, but in reality these puppies make noise. Good insight d.boat, much appreciated. Xcusme, I'll keep that in mind, thanks. And basspirate, I may try that foam. And I never thought of the air inside. Thanks for that.
 
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