Spark plugs lean

andirai

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I know that this question has been asked and answered a million times but I am REALLY not mechanically inclined so please indulge me. The boat shop wants $500.00 to rebuild the carb because it is running lean. I know that spark plugs are a good indicator for a lean motor. Can someone please give me their opinion based on the photos provided. We are nervous about trusting the shop as we just put $1,700 in to replace the voltage regulator, switchbox, stator and trigger. The shop said all those parts were bad. After the repair, they took the boat out and said it was running lean. I am a woman in a man's world here so please have pity
 

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GA_Boater

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Welcome aboard.

What 3 cylinder Merc outboard?

How was the motor running before the shop threw a bunch of parts at it and took a bunch of money?
 

andirai

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Thank you, it is a 60 hp if that helps. The boat would run for about 40 minutes and then not go above idle. If you gave it gas it would sputter, bog down and only run at idle. We bought the pontoon in April and took it out three times. This happened every time single time. The boat shop had it for four weeks so my summer is almost shot.
 

havoc_squad

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As requested above, when asking for info/help on an engine the year, model, and serial number information should accompany the HP info when posting a thread.

You would need to know the reputation of the shop well enough to know if they tend to be parts changers instead of diagnostic technicians regarding your $1,700 bill already.

If you are going to contest the bill above, I would ask for what steps (in some detail) was used to determine all those parts were at fault. You could at least get that information regardless and post it here to know if you need to the change service shop you go to.

The middle one appears lean, I would request a compression test on the cylinders (ask for the numbers), and if they are all good then go ahead with rebuild the carbs or if you're mechanically inclined enough, do it yourself with the service manual and the needed tools easily available.

Carb rebuilds are money makers indeed. Legitimate but expensive, the parts aren't too bad but the labor charged piles on.

Compression for two stroke should be between 110 to 130 and each cylinder should be no more than 10% difference than the highest number. example: 125, 115, 120

Four stroke should be much higher: At least 120 up to 180 depending on the engine. Again, no more than 10% difference than the highest number.

Any cylinder that reads below the listed ranges or is more than 10% difference in compression means possibly very expensive repair/replacement expense.
 

andirai

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Thank you for the information. This is what the shop wrote on the invoice:

"Found weak spark when starting job and spark got worse the further the diagnose went.

The ignition system has 4 main parts and when testing, found all 4 parts shorted to ground. This is bad because because electricity finds the shortest path to ground and will always follow that path.

The stator is shorted to the ground
The switchbox is shorted to ground
The regulator is shorted to ground
The trigger has low resistance 300 instead of 1200 OHM"
 
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