Spun hub replacement? Do it myself???

Doug Redinger

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I know most replies I have read on this forum recomend taking a spun hub to the dealer for replacement. Is hub replacement something a handy guy with a hydraulic press be able to do. Is the rubber hub bonded to the metal or is it strictly extreme friction and pressure that holds it in place and prevents it from spinning? Are any other special tools required for this job.
 

steelespike

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Re: Spun hub replacement? Do it myself???

Can't really answer any of your Qs I can say that the repair must be perfect or the prop will wobble and be out of balance could damage the gearcase and of course could fail prematurely.I think a rehub is very reasonable when you consider the possible alternatives.
 

Frank Acampora

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Re: Spun hub replacement? Do it myself???

I have done it on 10 and 13 inch props. You need a good press--6 ton or better but you can get away with 2 ton. I believe the prop shops have a cone shaped jig to press in the new hub but I have found that if the metal of the back end of the prop hub is tapered enough, the new rubber will fit in without much fuss. If you need it, you can try to fabricate an outer sleeve to keep rubber "doughnut" from becoming barrel shaped as you press it in--this will make it easier. (similar to a piston ring compressor)

MARK the position of the old hub. On some, the rubber will not contact the end of the prop and if you press the new one in too far, the prop will rub on the gearcase housing. Look at the fit of your prop in relation to the gearcase since you can adjust a little to compensate.

Press out the old hub. Slather the inside of the prop and the rubber hub with lubricant--rubber lubricant, or rubber cement, not oil. Actually, I prefer to use silicone RTV--lubricates it quite nicely and eventually it solidifies. Messy though! Press the new hub in firmly, quickly, and accurately. Just like plugging a tire, only bigger.

If the hub protrudes through the front of the prop, use a large socket or something similar for clearance. If it has a shear pin drive in the front like old Chryslers, then press it in just far enough to clear the shear pin hole--maybe 1/32 inch extra

I have even repaired one or two small prop rubber hubs with silicone but It will not hold for high horsepower applications. Buy a new hub for them. You won't be saving much, but you will have the satisfaction of doing it yourself.

I have also replaced the rubber "doughnut" with some flat sheet rubber cut to fit, wrapped around the cleaned and roughened old bronze hub and glued to the bronze hub with 3M Scotch-Grip 1300. If you try that, be sure the rubber is thick enough to need a good bit of pressure to be shoved in and also be sure it is a hard enough durometer rating to take the stress of the horsepower. Soft rubber just won't do here.

As you might be able to tell, I am so cheap that my shoes squeak. Tighter than a crab's a**hole and that's water tight. Actually, this type of thing is a challenge to me the first time. I do it just to see if I can, and if it works, well, then it becomes part of my repertoir. If it doesn't --well, live and learn. after all, that's what the hobby is about to me. I also mount my own automobile tires by hand using only tire irons and a big hammer--just like in the old days. Although I must admit, the radials are much tighter on the rims and much more difficult.

If you decide to do it, let me know how well you did. If you don't want it on the forum, PM me.
 

Doug Redinger

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Re: Spun hub replacement? Do it myself???

Thanks for the great information! I too prefer to do the work myself, mostly out of stubborness I guess. Sometimes I like to try something just to see if i can get it done. I have had very bad luck with dealers in the past and as a result I now do all my own work on my motors. I have learned a great deal and am now confident to tackle anything. It really used to bother me that my dealer would want to charge me $ 100.00 per hour to have some high school dropout kid tinker my motor, usually messing it up in the process, and then want me to pay for a bunch of unnecessary new parts. They are much more interested in trying to sell me a brand new motor than helping me keep my classics running!

Sorry I got off on a tangent there!
I will carefully note the location of everything in the hub before I proceed. Thanks again for the great detailed information. I will let you Know how things turn out.

Doug
 

walleyehed

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Re: Spun hub replacement? Do it myself???

What size prop/engine are we talking about here.?
 

nlain

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Re: Spun hub replacement? Do it myself???

Doug, Digital camera, take pictures of everything, you don't have to trust your memory then.
 

Doug Redinger

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Re: Spun hub replacement? Do it myself???

The motor is a 1963 Merc 850. I did the carb modification and the exhaust baffle upgrade to bring it up to about 100 h.p. The prop is a 19 pitch designed for the merc 650 and merc 700. 48-29656A2 . Because of my elevation 5000 ft. plus I use the smaller series props. The prop has not spun yet, but the rubber appears to have a circular crack developing atound the hub. Was going to replace the hub as a precaution.
 
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