Starting Submerged Nissan

Buzz457

Cadet
Joined
Apr 19, 2010
Messages
22
I just bought a Nissan 9.9 4stroke (NSF9.9B2). The previous owner sank it and the boat it was on several years ago. It was quickly retrieved and put in storage in their shop. I got the motor today took it home, pulled the spark plugs and got fire on both plugs. Should I take it to a shop and have it gone through or just change the plugs, oils, filters put fresh gas to it and try to start it? Any help is appreciated?
 

pvanv

Admiral
Joined
Apr 20, 2008
Messages
6,575
Re: Starting Submerged Nissan

Was it submerged in salt water or fresh? Yes, all fluids should be changed. Then see if it fires up. May have corrosion in the fuel system, and may have rust on valves and rings, etc., depending on how long it was submerged, and what was done when it was pulled out.
 

Buzz457

Cadet
Joined
Apr 19, 2010
Messages
22
Re: Starting Submerged Nissan

It was fresh water. I doubt much was done when it was taken out. I didn't know if I should put something in the plug holes to try and clean out the chamber before i tried. The electrical was what I was worried about, but it had good fire. Guess I'll give it a shot and try it our.
 

pvanv

Admiral
Joined
Apr 20, 2008
Messages
6,575
Re: Starting Submerged Nissan

Since salt wasn't involved, you are in better shape than if it was. You've already confirmed that it isn't seized, so that's in your favor. There may be rust lurking in the cylinders, valves and rings, as well as the rest of the mechanicals; No way to know other that disassembly, and running the motor will be the acid test anyway. Most of the electronics can tolerate a dousing in fresh water, and if allowed to dry out thoroughly, will be OK. If you want to squirt some 2-stroke oil in the cylinders, that shouldn't hurt (though it will smoke of course). Likewise, you can blend up some 50-to-1 gas for the first hour or so of running, and then switch back to straight gas. If there is rust involved, that may help you to "break in" the motor once again.

The big thing about recovering from a submersion is to get all the water out, and as quickly as possible. Of course that's out of your hands -- evidently no one knows what was actually done when it was recovered from the water. I have salvaged motors that sat at the bottom of Lake Erie for a weekend, and after thoroughly drying them out (cylinders, crankcase, fuel system, electronics) -- immediately after getting them back ashore, they suffered no ill effects.
 

Superjetjim

Petty Officer 1st Class
Joined
Jun 5, 2010
Messages
222
Re: Starting Submerged Nissan

All above points are totally valid. Rust can present a problem on little and big end bearings - strip it or run it, it's up to you. I'd do the former - if a little end rod bearing let's go it will hole the block. Rust can eat the surface hardening on bearings.

Tear it down - you'll probably need to do the carbs anyway as these may contain water.
Oil/fluids is a must
Jim
 

pvanv

Admiral
Joined
Apr 20, 2008
Messages
6,575
Re: Starting Submerged Nissan

The 9.9B2 does not have conventional needle or roller bearings on the rod ends. The rods are machined so precisely that they mate directly on the journals of the crank. So... If it turns freely, journal rust is probably not an issue.
 

Buzz457

Cadet
Joined
Apr 19, 2010
Messages
22
Re: Starting Submerged Nissan

thanks for all the suggestions so far. Still trying to get the supplies up to get started.
 

Buzz457

Cadet
Joined
Apr 19, 2010
Messages
22
Re: Starting Submerged Nissan

Well I changed the fluids and plugs, flushed carb out and after a little pulling and trying diffent things it fired up. I had it just in the shop on the boat, so tomorow I am going to run it in a tub of water and let it get a little heat in it and if it does ok I'm going to put it in the water and try it out. Thanks for the help everyone.
 

isaksp00

Petty Officer 1st Class
Joined
Jul 14, 2010
Messages
225
Re: Starting Submerged Nissan

Great that it works!

Just out of curiosity, what did you have to pay for a motor of that size that had been submerged and might not have operated?
 

pvanv

Admiral
Joined
Apr 20, 2008
Messages
6,575
Re: Starting Submerged Nissan

Did you fire it up without a cooling water supply? If so, plan on buying a new wp kit. Maybe also a new upper wp housing. Even a few seconds of running the pump dry will melt the impeller and overheat the housing.
 

Buzz457

Cadet
Joined
Apr 19, 2010
Messages
22
Re: Starting Submerged Nissan

I paid $200 for it without knowing anything. I spent $75 or so on fuel line, tank, plugs and fluids. I only got it to start for a second or so and cut it off. It was a dry start so I don't know the conition of the water pump, but i am planning on replacing it and going through the carb anyway, before any extended time on the water.
 

Buzz457

Cadet
Joined
Apr 19, 2010
Messages
22
Re: Starting Submerged Nissan

Well yesterday was the firt day I've had to take it to the lake without snow or ice everywhere. I backed it down into the water and it took a couple pulls but it fired up and ran and the water pump worked too. It has an electric choke so I wasn't sure how smooth it was supposed to run. After it warmed up I took it out arround the boat ramp and dam. It ran 17 (according to gps app on my phone) on a 16ft with fron and back decks. I believe I will still go through and redo the carb, but overall a big success.
 

RadarRick

Petty Officer 2nd Class
Joined
Jun 30, 2010
Messages
189
Re: Starting Submerged Nissan

Good work! With some work and minimal investment, you're getting a nice little motor. As a bonus, sounds like you had fun and learned a few things.
 
Top